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Reply #45 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 12:41pm
 
MORE ROT EH SKIPPEEEEE...
Just following your lead.
Can't let your lies, alarmist claptrap and dishonesty go un-commented on.
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Reply #46 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 1:27pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 12:41pm:
MORE ROT EH SKIPPEEEEE...
Just following your lead.
Can't let your lies and dishonesty go uncommented on.

Unlike you I don't need to resort to lies to explain the pending problems we are facing with climate change.
As I said a couple of days ago the effects of climate change on pacific islands is going to cost Australia.


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Australia to help Pacific island nations deal with climate change


Australian Associated Press

Half the populations of these island countries are lying in the path of coastal inundation.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has committed Australia to help Pacific island nations deal with the effects of climate change.

Speaking at the 40th annual Pacific Islands Forum in Cairns on Wednesday, Mr Rudd said Australia needed to help its Pacific neighbours incorporate climate change into national development strategies.

Flanked by Climate Change Minister Penny Wong and Vanuatu Prime Minister Edward Natapei, Mr Rudd said Australia needed to take practical measures to help Pacific nations adapt to rising sea levels, and voice their experiences at global forums.

Mr Rudd referred to a forum document, which highlighted the dangers of climate change including "severe economic impacts" caused by reduced income from agricultural exports, fisheries and tourism.

The document also warned of storm surges, flooding and erosion and exacerbation of existing problems of water purity.

"Threats also to food security and on top of that changes to the distribution of disease-bearing organisms like mosquitoes," Mr Rudd said.

Mr Rudd warned those living in the Pacific islands faced destruction if more was not done to address the impacts due to climate change.

"Half the populations of these island countries are lying in the path of coastal inundation," he said.

"It underlines afresh ... Australia's responsibility to argue as clearly and cogently as we can the interests of our friends and neighbours in the councils of the world in which we are active on climate change."

Mr Rudd said the key challenge ahead of UN climate talks in Copenhagen was to come up with an action plan for both developed and developing countries to make a difference on climate change.

"That's the first thing, rather than just saying it's all too hard, it's all too difficult."

Mr Rudd said the security of the various Pacific communities was a concern for the entire international community.

"Our first responsibility is to get a good outcome in Copenhagen because those in the front line of the impact of climate change are within our own region and we have a responsibility to act."

The UN climate talks in Copenhagen are set to take place in December

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Reply #47 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 1:38pm
 
So just what is your point?

You need an education of the natural forces at work in the world Skippeeee...

BTW Pacific Island migration has been going on for centuries.
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Reply #48 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:53pm
 
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You need an education of the natural forces at work in the world Skippeeee...


Oh please enlighten me.
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Reply #49 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:57pm
 
educate yourself...
do some real research
read an encyclopedia instead of some LW prog rubbish.
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Reply #50 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:09pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:57pm:
educate yourself...
do some real research
read an encyclopedia instead of some LW prog rubbish.


Oh all my info is mainstream easy to access, I, unlike you, don't need to look for conspironut stuff.You should try it some time. Grin


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Reply #51 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 9:47pm
 
Typical...  just more negativistic crap...
too hard for you to educate yourself eh.
Easier just to put other people down in  order to think youre building yourself up
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Reply #52 - Aug 8th, 2009 at 2:30pm
 
It wont be just pacific island nation that are affected by the rising sea levels many places in Australia, even in Sydney's northern beaches and tourist destinations like Byron could well be abandoned.

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Marian Wilkinson, Environment Editor
March 23, 2009

THE top government scientist advising on how to adapt the nation to climate change warns that Australia will be forced to abandon some coastal communities in a "planned retreat" because of rising sea levels caused by global warming.

Andrew Ash, who leads the CSIRO's Climate Adaptation Flagship program, told the Herald that while some vulnerable coastal places could be protected by sea walls and levees, "there are going to be areas where that is not physically possible or it's not cost-effective to introduce any engineering solution and planned retreat becomes the only option".

Warning that climate change was accelerating much more quickly than predicted, Dr Ash said state and local governments needed urgently to identify coastal land unsuitable for new residential development because rising sea levels and more frequent big storms would flood them with seawater.

Federal and state governments would also need to rule out putting costly new infrastructure such as airport runways and bridges in vulnerable low-lying coastal areas.

"They need to be thinking now about what areas are vulnerable and what areas are likely to be unsuitable in the longer term for new residential developments because local governments are concerned about future liabilities," Dr Ash said.

Scientists at Sydney University have previously identified vulnerable areas in NSW, including Narrabeen, Dee Why and Curl Curl on Sydney's northern beaches. Batemans Bay to the south and parts of Byron Bay in the north are also seen as particularly vulnerable.

Dr Ash will press his warnings when he joins 500 scientists, industry figures and policy-makers, including Professor Ross Garnaut, in Perth this week for the climate change conference, Greenhouse 2009.

"The planning needs to start now," Dr Ash said. "That is a real challenge for us - getting it into the psyche of people, getting an ownership of the problem and having enough capacity to start exploring solutions to the problem."

Dr Ash and other senior CSIRO scientists have just returned from the global scientific congress on climate change in Copenhagen, which heard that climate change impacts are tracking at the highest case levels predicted less than two years ago by the peak United Nations scientific body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. These include projections on rising sea levels that are escalating as new scientific evidence shows the ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica are melting more rapidly than predicted, as are many glaciers.

"Across the range of the main indicators of climate change, all are tracking at the top level of projections," Dr Ash said. "That is mirroring the fact that global greenhouse gas emissions are also tracking at the top end of the IPCC projections."

Last month, the NSW Government released draft guidelines to consult with local governments, business and communities on how to prepare for sea-level rises of up to 40 centimetres by 2050 and 90 centimetres by 2100.

Scientists at the Copenhagen conference said even these projections might be too low, with sea-level rise possibly going above one metre by 2100.

Scientists point out that combined with storm surges, a rise in sea level of one centimetre can cause erosion effects 50 to 100 times greater in low-lying areas.

The Federal Government plans to hold a national forum soon on climate change impacts on coastal communities. The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, will tell the greenhouse conference today that the Government will spend $20 million helping Pacific island countries and East Timor track the accelerating threat of climate change from sea level rise, storm damage and water shortages.
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Reply #53 - Aug 8th, 2009 at 2:44pm
 
Skippeeeeeeeeeee....  we used to have a frgn INLAND SEA buddy.
We had that without man-made CO2 emissions.

There are fossils of sea-life and shells in the Blue mtns.

If nature decides it's time for a change all we can do is adapt.
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Reply #54 - Aug 8th, 2009 at 3:08pm
 
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THE top government scientist advising on how to adapt the nation to climate change warns that Australia will be forced to abandon some coastal communities in a "planned retreat" because of rising sea levels caused by global warming.


So, as the experts warn many people living "on the beach" might have to move inland, sooner rather than later.
I know of houses in Byron that could well be swallowed up within the year the erosion is so bad.
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Reply #55 - Aug 8th, 2009 at 3:31pm
 
Your point?
It only just started and is all our fault, nothing natural about it?
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Reply #56 - Aug 8th, 2009 at 5:35pm
 
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Across the range of the main indicators of climate change, all are tracking at the top level of projections," Dr Ash said. "That is mirroring the fact that global greenhouse gas emissions are also tracking at the top end of the IPCC projections."


My point is we need to reduce gas emissions, natural causes mixed with man made emissions is destroying the planet as we know it.
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Reply #57 - Aug 8th, 2009 at 7:34pm
 
lol
natural gas and natural CO2 is destroying the planet?  Wink
Hmmm... excuse me, I'll have to think about that one.
BTW, just so you know, water vapour is the most abundant greenhouse gas.
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Reply #58 - Aug 9th, 2009 at 8:52am
 
As usual  grendal thinks he knows more than the experts,what an arrogant individual you are boooooofeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Reply #59 - Aug 9th, 2009 at 10:19am
 
No I'm just not an ignorant alarmist like you Skippeeeee.  Cheesy
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