Grendel wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2009 at 12:24pm:


Thats your best work yet, boofy thinks all these pacific islands under threat of going under water were somehow towed to their current position,and as boof puts it "they decided to live  in a flood prone area"
I'd blame their parents for having them on the island that has been their home for who knows how many years.

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As a matter of fact I can show you how its already happening , here is a story from just last week.


First climate refugees start move to new island home
The Carteret Islands.

Adam Morton
July 29, 2009
IMAGINE that your home, water and a fair whack of your food are under threat. Imagine it is only going to get worse.

Imagine that you live on the Carteret Islands, seven tiny coral atolls in the Pacific that have been described as the home of the world’s first climate change refugees.

Six months ago, the 2700 islanders began what will eventually become a big evacuation to Bougainville, about 80 kilometres to the south.

The decision to relocate followed years of worsening storm surges and king tides that infected the fresh water supply and ruined the islanders’ staple banana and taro crops.

Fearing worse is to come — more frequent floods are expected to be the most visible signs of rising sea levels due to global warming — the islanders secured three blocks of coastal land. Five men moved earlier this year to build houses and plant crops, the first step in the relocation of 1700 people in the next five years.

The relocation is being headed by Ursula Rakova, an islander who quit a job with Oxfam in Bougainville three years ago to set up Tulele Peisa, an organisation that raises money and campaigns for social justice on behalf of her people. ‘‘We have a feeling of anxiety, a feeling of uncertainty because we know that we will be losing our homes. It is our identity. It is our whole culture at stake,’’ she said in Melbourne yesterday.

The move has been helped by the Catholic Church, which provided the land for relocation, but not the Bougainville Government.

Ms Rakova said the $1 million provided by the Papua New Guinea Government in Port Moresby had been swallowed by provincial bureaucrats.

The purpose of her trip to Australia this week is two-fold — to secure a market for the organic cocoa the islanders plan to grow at their new home and to call on the Australian Government, through its AusAID program, to pressure the Bougainville Government to deliver the promised money.

Just as urgently, she wants to see Western leaders take on much deeper cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.

The Australian Government’s most ambitious emissions proposal of stabilising atmospheric carbon dioxide at 450 parts per million was not enough to give the Pacific a safe future, she said.

‘‘We are angry. Some people do not understand the science, but they know they are losing their homes and they are angry they are having to pay for what other people [in industrialised nations] have done,’’ she said.

While climate scientists warn that the future for atolls like the Carterets is bleak, the extent to which climate change is responsible for their current predicament is unclear.

Campaigners believe the impact of rising sea levels may have been amplified by the gradual sinking of an extinct volcano that supports the atolls.

One of the world’s leading sea level experts yesterday called for caution. John Hunter, from the University of Tasmania, said sea level rises would eventually cause ‘‘huge problems’’, and called for the building of sea walls to protect the islands’ culture and ‘‘buy a few more decades’’

Boofeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, where are you son? I've gone and got all this info for you and you scatoodle, feeling a bit silly hey?

how disappointing bofeee, two days and that's the best you could come up with. I suppose seeing as tho I've shown you up as being wrong grates at you, but hey, I'm used to it.

Grendel wrote on Aug 5^th, 2009 at 1:45pm:


Boofeeee boofee boofeee, you're looking silly mate, you asked me for proof pacific islands were in danger of flooding , see below-

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I've actually provided a list and in fact went even further and showed you an article from just last week showing that these people are already being moved to other places.
There are plenty of articles on the net about low laying islands at threat of going under because of seas rising due to ice caps melting due to the climate warming, you should try and google a few of those and get yourself better educated son.

You go on believing that booofeee, the only person you're fooling is yourself.

Grendel wrote on Aug 5^th, 2009 at 2:57pm:


Well you might be able to try and squirm out of what you said but dont make up lies about what I said and when. I brought up the pacific islands and their refugees a few posts before your post about getting back to you in twenty years. If ya gunna lie ol fella cover your tracks.

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I was clearly discussing pacific islands, nice try.

And then you of course also said this ,didn't YOU?

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I hope you're finished trying to hijack my topic with your usual bile and lies boooffeeeeeeeeee.
So fifteen of Australia's most experienced climate change experts have put it into black and white for the confusionalists yet we still get confusionalists boo hooing these experts, the question needs to be asked, why do they do this? I suspect many of them have  motives that are far from genuine, many work in the industries that will suffer when clean power is introduced so they are thinking of themselves not their children's future.
we shouldn't let these confusionalists damage our children's future with their lies and attempts to hijack the very real threat that climate warming is.