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Re: Temperature changes in water
Reply #15 - Jul 11^th, 2009 at 7:57pm

tallowood wrote on Jul 11^th, 2009 at 11:46am:

Calanen wrote on Jul 11^th, 2009 at 10:48am:

If Mantra put her head in a four litre bucket of water, and a 1 litre bucket of water, would we still be able to hear her talking about how good Multiculturalism is in:

(a) the 4 litre bucket
(b) the 1 litre bucket
(c) the Mariana Trench 7 miles underwater;
(d) it's a trick question, mantra would not be stopped from talking with any volume of water.

Talking is basic human right respected in democratic countries and on democratic forums but suppressed by dictators in moslem and atheistic countries and forums.

But back to topic:
Mantra, you can stabilise water temperature of the bowl by placing the bowl into styrofoam box. You can get the box from a green grocery shop after they emptied broccolis or such out of it.

Thank you Tallow and I actually don't talk much at all compared to some - I am quite introverted.

I've been wrapping a towel at night around the large bowl which I've put him in - but the styrofoam sounds like a great idea. I might get some I can wrap around the bowl and stitch up the sides like a beer cooler.

I took Muso's information on water evaporation & put some glad wrap on the top (with some breathing space) and I add a couple of cups of hot water a day. Although he's sluggish - he's still eating and looking at me with those little turtle eyes of his.

All this for a $2 fish - shows how kind I am.

And Calanen - I have a suggestion with what you can do with your two cents worth of comments - but I'm too polite to say it.

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Reply #16 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:03am

FD and Muso were correct in their water theory, although admittedly I didn't put all my faith in it initially.

The little fish survived the remainder of the cold, cold winter in the larger bowl, although he's battled scarred, scalded and deformed from all the different hot and cold water temperatures he was subject to during my periods of uncertainty.

Next winter I'll leave him in the large bowl where the temperatures remain fairly stable. By surviving the winter and my ministrations - he will survive anything now.

It was an interesting exercise.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Temperature changes in water Reply #17 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:30am Yay! your fish survived That's the main thing.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Temperature changes in water Reply #18 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:51am mantra wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:03am: It was an interesting exercise. Not so interesting for the fish...
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Re: Temperature changes in water
Reply #19 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 11:56am

Soren wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:51am:

mantra wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:03am:

It was an interesting exercise.

Not so interesting for the fish... Tongue

No it wasn't. I think he was scared of me for a while - especially when he saw me looming with a glass of steaming water. It was touch and go for a while, but he's bounced back more resilient than ever.

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Re: Temperature changes in water
Reply #20 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 12:00pm

mantra wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:51am:

mantra wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 9:03am:

It was an interesting exercise.

Not so interesting for the fish... Tongue

No it wasn't. I think he was scared of me for a while - especially when he saw me looming with a glass of steaming water. It was touch and go for a while, but he's bounced back more resilient than ever.

Don't worry, for fish the world starts anew every 8 seconds.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Temperature changes in water Reply #21 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 6:34pm Soren wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 12:00pm: Don't worry, for fish the world starts anew every 8 seconds. I think that's a rumour spread by fishermen. Fish, in my experience, feel pain, have brains and fairly long term memories. FD would probably contradict that though.
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Reply #22 - Oct 23^rd, 2009 at 8:41am

lol, actually they do test different animals to see how their brains work, and evidence is on the fishermens side of this argument.
What surprised me with these sorts of studies was that horses brains are not nearly as advanced as people gave them credit for.
Apparently they have very short retention times as well, which means that how they are best trained, needs to be adapted to fit in with their abilities.

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Reply #23 - Oct 23^rd, 2009 at 11:27am

I wonder whether they have it right about horses. They are highly sensitive animals and their nervous nature could be an inhibitor in their memory retention.

You have to "know" an animal before you can make these judgements. Even an apparently "simple, small brained" animal can communicate and show signs of surprising intelligence if it is in the right environment.

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Reply #24 - Oct 23^rd, 2009 at 11:31pm

Yes I heard of that experiment with horses which found them to be less than intelligent, but as a previous horse owner, I'd tend to disagree.
My poor old horsy used to be able to open our back door (with a round knob) and he once walked right into the house. He also had a habit of opening the chaff shed and filling himself with oats.
He knew how to do a lot of things that he wasn't purposely trained to do as well as those that he was trained for, and sometimes I'm sure he even knew what I was thinking.
Maybe the horses in the experiment were just too damned smart to fall for human crap.

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