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Re: Senator - there is no warming.
Reply #45 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 12:47pm

pjb05 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2009 at 4:25pm:

muso wrote on Jul 1^st, 2009 at 2:57pm:

Grendel,

CO2 keeps our planet warm so that it is not covered in ice'. There is ample geological evidence of increased CO2 causing climate change, such as the Palaeocene-Eocene thermal maximum about 55 million years ago. Land and sea temperatures increased by five to ten degrees with associated extinctions of life' when methane was released into the atmosphere due to geological processes and rapidly converted to CO2.

So based on that, there is ample evidence that increases in CO2 can drive climate.

Do you agree with that analysis?

Didn't you say that methane has 20x the global warming effect of CO2? Yet your attributing this warming period to CO2. What about other periods when the Earth's atmopspheric CO2 levels have been thousands of ppm higher than they are today, with no corresponding global warming. In fact, some periods that should have been excessively hot (such as the late Ordovician) were ice ages!

Oh sorry PJ. I neglected to say that I cut and pasted that particular text from 'Heaven and Earth' by Ian Plimer. You're right. It's not very accurate.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Senator - there is no warming. Reply #46 - Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 2:45pm So what's not accurate about it Bozo...? oh and pls provide a link to the online version of H&E you cut and pasted it from. I'd like a read.
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Re: Senator - there is no warming.
Reply #47 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 8:21am

Grendel wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 2:45pm:

So what's not accurate about it Bozo...?

oh and pls provide a link to the online version of H&E you cut and pasted it from. I'd like a read.

ROTFLMAO

You can get it here:

http://www.bittorrent.com/ Grin

Do you want page numbers? It's around page 415-417. Not sure of the exact verse Grin

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Senator - there is no warming. Reply #48 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 8:22am Grendel wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2009 at 2:45pm: So what's not accurate about it Bozo...? Well it only talks about CO2 - ask PJ - he seems to know how inaccurate it is.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Senator - there is no warming. Reply #49 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:08am Well that link didn't work. It only talks about CO2? There's a fair amount of Pot, Kettle, Black happening there. Pssst.... I know what the atmosphere does BTW. I know that the greenhouse effect is also beneficial to life. How about you?
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Re: Senator - there is no warming.
Reply #50 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:13am

Grendel wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:08am:

Well that link didn't work.

It only talks about CO2? There's a fair amount of Pot, Kettle, Black happening there.

I wondered what the influence was. Grin

You don't want to subscribe to peer sharing sites. Better to buy your copy at Angus and Robertson if you really must waste your money.

You can try to bury your embarrassment by lengthening this thread, but I'm not going to reply. Grin

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Senator - there is no warming. Reply #51 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 9:16am You Bozo.... Sorry you can't do better than that. No wonder you've been copping a beating.
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