Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:00am:


You were saying that all other ideologies were not required etc, and I wanted to focus in on the only one that is a significant threat - Islam and why it is.

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I admire Islam like I admire smallpox or botulinum. Just recognise its destructiveness, but want it eradicated nonetheless.

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It's not reductio ad absurdum at all. I'm very familiar with both the Third Reich and Islam. I would say why, but the manic Helian would add it to his "ID Calanen file' so, I'll take the 5th on that.  But the insane hatred of Jews, the requirement to rule over all others, the fact that all others are inferior to the superior muslims - very very similar outlooks.


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No, let's forget all of that as more moral relativist rubbish. We have a problem with Islam, not the Kali cult.

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Comparaitvely few problems with muslims? Have you seen how many have been arrested in terror plots? You have few general law and order problems with muslims (like violent demonstrations), because America strikes hard in law and order so anyone that pokes their head up is squashed quickly - also the populace in the US would stand for it like the polite Swedes do.  What about all the Holy Land Foundation trial? And these are what, some insignicant percentage of the entire population? 9/11? The attempt to overrun a US Army base?

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Blacks are disorganised rabble, and whatever Mexicans might be - they are Catholics. They are not going to strap a bomb to themselves and ride the subway. To say there is any other problem in the US, does not lessen the problem, the huge problem with Islam.

The most important problem is that people are not even free to discuss the problem.

Islam is the only culture that can destroy the US economy. A few well timed terror attacks spread acrosss the country and its all over. You'd only need 50 or so people and a few million dollars. They've tried again and again, and the FBI has always caught them. One day it will not.

And the millions being raised in US mosques for terror. Already, muslims have angrily been asking for assurances that mosques will NEVER be bugged by the FBI, and probably Mr Hopey Changey man will give them that assurance.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

Less ideologies and more peoples, but yes.  Generally speaking mass immigration from any Third World population is a significant threat.  I will grant you that Muslims are perhaps the worst Third World immigrants the West has thus far received.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

You want it eradicated?  I certainly want it eradicated from the West, but do you really care about their own rubbish countries?

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

Anti-semitism in Europe was not some kind of insane movement, but one based on typical material resentment and secondarily on the disproportionate involvement of Jews in negative radical politics, such as communism.  Granted, the Nazis..."excelled" in anti-semitism to the point of insanity.

Nazism did not posit a requirement to rule over all others, quite unlike Islam.  Nazism in fact presented an orderly continuation of long-standing German geopolitical goals of eastern expansion, the reason for which was quite clear from Germany's geography.

Lastly, Nazi supremacist ideology was predicated on Nordicism, which of course is exclusive and hereditary.  Islamic supremacism is predicated on a religious-social system that can be adapted by anyone.  A Slav can't become an "Aryan", but anyone can become a Muslim.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

What moral relativism?  I was describing a despicable practice in another culture.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

Terrorism is a nuisance.  Bad as 9-11 was, it's nothing that threatens to dispossess us from our nation or cause mass destruction or suffering.  We all know of course that Muslims are significantly more likely to commit acts of terrorism against us and that's one of many reasons they shouldn't be here.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

Precisely, and they blame us for it.  They commit half the murders in the country and consume huge amounts of public resources.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

This is a Protestant nation, not a Catholic one.  Catholicism is better than Islam, far better, but we have far too many Papists here already.  Mexicans are also predominantly non-white and once here display similar levels of social disorder to blacks.  Unlike Muslims, Mexicans threaten to dispossess us from our own homeland due to their sheer numbers.  This is our number one threat in the way Muslims are to Europe.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

Protected by the First Amendment here--for now.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

Neither Pearl Harbor nor 9-11 destroyed our economy.  A catastrophic stock market crash is ultimately a temporary event, even if bad, as the Panic of 1893 and the Great Depression showed.  If we didn't have a fiat currency then there would also be far less scope for harm.  The only country that can destroy our economy besides us is Russia, as they can quite literally destroy all our physical resources.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 2:16pm:

We'll see.  Bush once made similar promises. 

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 4:47pm:

If I were a European I would agree, but Hispanics are the mortal danger to America and their rising tide must be stopped.  That is the most urgent priority facing us.  That said, dealing with this issue does not preclude dealing with Islam at the same time, and in fact the two campaigns could mutually reinforce each other.

Calanen wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 4:47pm:

Unless you're talking about a salted bomb, the threat posed by dirty bombs is quite minimal and it's questionable as to whether or not anyone would even die.  Repeated terrorist attacks would also have the effect of steeling us to them until we felt they were routine, then life would go on.  I agree that initially mass panic and bedlam would be more likely.

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Hispanics will shout USA, Go America, USA all the WAY! They will join the US Army.

Not many jihadi types will, although there are some muslims who serve in the US Army, mosly Islam Light types, western converts who are sold the low fat version.

Forget about Hispanics, for now at least. It is another problem, but it is a very very complex one, whereas the Islam problem is a worldwide war.

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Disagree. Most regular people I think, are smart enough to see through the masquerade. Only high IQ sheltered leftists with elaborate tertiary educations could possibly be dumb enough to actually swallow the "religion of peace" tripe.

Funny thing is that you blokes using the term Leftards is as idiotic as Abu using the term Islamaphobe.

locutius wrote on Jun 19^th, 2009 at 3:56pm:


Did I ever use that term?