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Jun 9th, 2009 at 1:59pm
 


i admire their cheek.
Wonder if we should petition Saudi to fund more christian universities also ??


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ISLAMIC scholars are urging a rethink on the fight against homegrown extremism as the Rudd government stands accused of failing to match its tough talk on counter-terrorism with action.

The Rudd government should urgently boost funding for high-quality Islamic studies courses, moderate Muslim community groups, and police liaison teams to counter home-grown extremism, a leading Australian Islamic expert says.

Such measures offered the best hope of blunting the potential radicalisation of hundreds of Muslim students who come to Australia to study each year. They would have a hugely positive impact on Australian Muslims, said Ameer Ali, vice-president of the Regional Islamic Council of Southeast Asia and the Pacific. Dr Ali's call follows a blunt warning by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute that the government had failed to match its tough talk on countering local extremism with the resources needed to deliver a solution.

Attorney-General Robert McClelland warned in March that a terrorist attack in Australia had "as much prospect of emanating from disgruntled and alienated Australian youth as it does from an overseas terrorist organisation". Government concerns about extremism were again raised by the Attorney-General's Department in the May budget portfolio statement to "develop and progress" moves to reduce the risk of resort to violent extremism.

Despite the warnings, no new funding was provided to the Attorney-General's Department for programs to counter local extremism, ASPI's research programs director Anthony Bergin says in a new report.

"At this stage it's not clear what direction the Australian government's counter-extremism policy will take," he says. "It's unclear, for example, what the Attorney-General's Department's new body of counter-extremism work will look like or when it will commence. It's disappointing that the Attorney-General's Department was given no new funding to advance their counter-extremism work in this year's budget."

Australia's growing Muslim population numbers more than 300,000.

ASIO said in its latest annual report it was "aware of a significant number of Australians" who hold or have held extremist views, Dr Bergin said.

"Some of these Australians have shown a willingness to put these views into action - some have travelled overseas to train with terrorist groups or engage in jihad activities."

Mr McClelland said the government was committed to countering home-grown extremism and had looked to Britain and Singapore for possible models.

"Deradicalisation and rehabilitation strategies will necessarily be considered as part of this work," Mr McClelland told The Australian.

The Australian Federal Police had also developed a national community engagement strategy to "establish, maintain and enhance" relationships with the (Muslim) community," he added.

Speaking from Perth yesterday, Dr Ali, a Murdoch University academic and former chair of the Howard government's Muslim Community Reference Group, said university courses offering a "critical analysis" of Islamic studies should be used to counter home-grown extremism and act as a moderating influence on foreign students.

"These students are coming from a particular mindset.

"If we don't train these students to think critically they'll just continue to believe what they believe," he said.

"And we have to target the funding to train the trainers, the teachers at Muslim schools."



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25608091-5013871,00.html
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Re: muslims want rudd to fund their islamic studies
Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2009 at 2:18pm
 


Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 9th, 2009 at 1:59pm:
i admire their cheek.
Wonder if we should petition Saudi to fund more christian universities also ??




Could be put as condition – reciprocal funding

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Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2009 at 11:58pm
 
Rudd and the dick heads will cave. They don't have any sort of attachment to this nation, its people, its history and its cohesiveness. We're being lead by rootless cosmopolitans who wouldn't shed a single tear if Western Civilization burned.
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Re: muslims want rudd to fund their islamic studies
Reply #3 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 8:50am
 
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....The Rudd government should urgently boost funding for high-quality Islamic studies courses, moderate Muslim community groups....









When will our political leaders see the TRUTH, about what ISLAM is?

ISLAM,
is
a form of political fascism,
ISLAM,
is
a political tyranny [against both moslems and non-moslems].

There are no 'moderate' [true, pure] muslims.

And
nothing
, about ISLAM is 'moderate'.

Anyone who supports ISLAM and follows that philosophy,
  • supports a philosophy of ISLAMIC /moslem supremacism,
  • supports the division of the world into two camps [moslem and non-moslem],
  • and supports a political apartheid, where laws for moslems and non-moslems reflect the difference in the rights of moslems and non-moslems.


Sharia jurisdictions are places where moslem laws, favour 'innocent' moslems, and punish all 'guilty' non-moslem people.



EXAMPLES.....

SHARIA JURISDICTIONS ARE ALWAYS TOLERANT AND ACCOMMODATING OF NON-MUSLIMS,
....except when they are not,


Monday June 09, 2008
JORDAN
: COURT ANNULS CHRISTIAN CONVERT’S MARRIAGE
"By leaving Islam, ‘apostate’ loses right because he ‘has no creed.’.....
....The North Amman Sharia Court in April dissolved the marriage of Mohammad Abbad, on trial for apostasy, or leaving Islam.
The 40-year-old convert fled Jordan with his wife and two young children in March after another Christian convert’s relatives attacked Abbad’s family in their home and his father demanded custody of Abbad’s children.
Marriage depends on the creed [religion], and the apostate has no creed, a May 22 court document stated, detailing reasons for the April 22 annulment. According to the document, Judge Faysal Khreisat had proven the veracity of [Abbad’s] apostasy."
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&lang=en&length=long&idelem...


Egypt
Rules Christian Convert Must Remain Legally Muslim
Feb. 03 2008
An Egyptian judge ruled this week in an unprecedented case that a Muslim who converted to Christianity cannot legally change his religious status....
.....Muhammad Hegazy, 25, lost his case on Tuesday when
Judge Muhammad Husseini of a court in Cairo said
according to sharia, or Islamic law,
Islam is the final and most complete religion and therefore Muslims already practice full freedom of religion and cannot convert to an older belief (Christianity or Judaism)
,
.....The judge didn’t listen to our defense, and we didn’t even have a chance to talk before the court, said Gamel Eid, head of the Arab Network for Human Rights Information (ANHRI) to U.S. Copts Association.
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080203/egypt-rules-christian-convert-must...


16 May 2006
Pressure on multi-faith
Malaysia

Malaysia is considering its multi-cultural credentials after a crowd of Muslims on Sunday broke up a meeting called to defend the rights of religious minorities.
The country's leaders condemned the disturbances, but the BBC's Jonathan Kent in Kuala Lumpur says non-Muslims feel increasingly beleaguered.
"I'm becoming an alien in Malaysia, in my own country," says Dr Jacob George.
The president of the Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam in Selangor State has been helping to organise efforts to stop the local authorities in the ethnic Malay-Muslim dominated city of Shah Alam from demolishing a 107-year-old Hindu temple.
......In living memory it has had only two serious outbreaks of inter-communal violence; in 1946 and 1969. But lately, non-Muslims in Malaysia have expressed fears that the delicate balance between themselves and the majority may be shifting.
......"There's a creeping Islamicisation in our society and this isn't appropriate because we're a multi-religious, multi-racial country."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm








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Victor Frankl - Nazi Holocaust survivor
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Re: muslims want rudd to fund their islamic studies
Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 8:55am
 

yadda - I trust Obama is aware of this religious intolerance.
He DID mention it in his speech.
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Re: muslims want rudd to fund their islamic studies
Reply #5 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 10:02am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 9th, 2009 at 1:59pm:
Quote:
ISLAMIC scholars
are urging a rethink on the fight against homegrown extremism as the Rudd government stands accused of failing to match its tough talk on counter-terrorism with action.

The Rudd government should urgently boost funding for high-quality Islamic studies courses, moderate Muslim community groups, and police liaison teams to counter home-grown extremism,
a leading Australian Islamic expert says.


Such measures offered the best hope of blunting the potential radicalisation of hundreds of Muslim students who come to Australia to study each year. They would have a hugely positive impact on Australian Muslims, said
>> Ameer Ali <<
, vice-president of the Regional Islamic Council of Southeast Asia and the Pacific. Dr Ali's call follows a blunt warning by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute that the government had failed to match its tough talk on countering local extremism with the resources needed to deliver a solution.

.......Australia's growing Muslim population numbers more than 300,000.

ASIO said in its latest annual report it was "aware of a significant number of Australians" who hold or have held extremist views, Dr Bergin said.

"Some of these Australians have shown a willingness to put these views into action - some have travelled overseas to train with terrorist groups or engage in jihad activities."

Mr McClelland said the government was committed to countering home-grown extremism and had looked to Britain and Singapore for possible models.

"Deradicalisation and rehabilitation strategies will necessarily be considered as part of this work," Mr McClelland told The Australian.

The Australian Federal Police had also developed a national community engagement strategy to "establish, maintain and enhance" relationships with the (Muslim) community," he added.

Speaking from Perth yesterday, Dr Ali, a Murdoch University academic and former chair of the Howard government's Muslim Community Reference Group, said university courses offering a "critical analysis" of Islamic studies should be used to counter home-grown extremism and act as a moderating influence on foreign students.

"These students are coming from a particular mindset.

[COMMENT: YES, THESE STUDENTS ARE MOSLEMS, THEY BELIEVE IN ISLAMIC VALUES!]


"If we don't train these students to think critically they'll just continue to believe what they believe," he said.

"And we have to target the funding to train the trainers, the teachers at Muslim schools."



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25608091-5013871,00.html





What the Australian government should determine to do, is to close ALL moslem schools, and to demolish ALL mosques, and to deport ALL fascist moslems [those who declare, they follow ISLAM as a life philosophy].

But i'm not holding my breath.i
OUR MOSLEM 'FRIENDS', LIKE Dr Ameer Ali, HAVE AN AGENDA WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY SINCERE FRIENDSHIP WITH THE 'UN-BELIEVERS'.....


Australia a Muslim nation

October 08, 2006
AUSTRALIA is a Muslim nation, the head of Prime Minister John Howard's Muslim advisory board says.
>> Dr Ameer Ali <<
says most Australians practise Muslim values but the Muslim community is being alienated and disadvantaged by Islamophobia.
Dr Ali said multiculturalism was Australia's destiny but Muslims, as latecomers, were being disadvantaged.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20545617-1702,00.html



THE KORAN...

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.051
[i.e. those 'moslems' who make friends with unbelievers, ARE unbelievers]

The Koran instructs moslems, that,
"Fighting [against non-moslems] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.216
[i.e.... fighting the non-moslems, to bring Allah's way, is an obligation.]

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth...."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.029





Thursday 13th September, 2007
Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=280465



September 8, 2007
Our followers ‘must live in peace until strong enough to wage jihad’

One of the world’s most respected Deobandi scholars believes that aggressive military jihad should be waged by Muslims “to establish the supremacy of Islam” worldwide.
.....His views explode the myth that the creed of offensive, expansionist jihad represents a distortion of traditional Islamic thinking.
....These words are not the product of a radical extremist. They come from the pen of one of the most acclaimed scholars in the Deobandi tradition.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece






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Re: muslims want rudd to fund their islamic studies
Reply #6 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 10:36am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 10th, 2009 at 8:55am:
yadda -
I trust Obama is aware of this religious intolerance.






sprint,

I'm sure that you do.

And you have declared, that,

"I like Obama"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1241185795/0#0



But i doubt Obama will take a 'new path' in this world.

And i doubt very much, that Obama will confront the TRUTH, about what ISLAM
is
.





Why so pessimistic?

Read some assessments of Obama's Cairo speech.


"Platitudes and naivete: Obama's Cairo speech"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026426.php


"Fitzgerald: Obama's Cairo Nonsense"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026435.php





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