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Coral Sea Senior Member Offline American Politics Posts: 360 Chicago Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #75 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:43am Exactly Helian. Every generation a new generation of Americans needs to learn geography so then we need to go to war with a new nation.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #76 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:43am Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:41am: And I'd rather nuke them than sit around wringing my hands over whether or not they're a "real democracy". Course you would, you're a Yank.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #77 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:45am Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:43am: Exactly Helian. Every generation a new generation of Americans needs to learn geography so then we need to go to war with a new nation. Laughing at you, not with you.
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Coral Sea Senior Member Offline American Politics Posts: 360 Chicago Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #78 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:45am That doesn't follow. I don't know if our terrible news programs make it to Australia, but they're obsessed with Iran's election and constantly babbling about hopeful signs of "progress".
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Reply #79 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:48am

Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:45am:

That doesn't follow. I don't know if our terrible news programs make it to Australia, but they're obsessed with Iran's election and constantly babbling about hopeful signs of "progress".

They'd be concerned Americans for whom 'no man is an island'.

Yanks are sitting around waiting to drop the bomb.

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Coral Sea Senior Member Offline American Politics Posts: 360 Chicago Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #80 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:52am If anything those in our media obsessed with the election are the ones who want to bomb Iran, as they like to crow that Ahmadinejad's victory is proof that Iran is the new Nazi Germany (every tinpot enemy has to be compared to Hitler).
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Reply #81 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:02pm

Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 11:52am:

If anything those in our media obsessed with the election are the ones who want to bomb Iran, as they like to crow that Ahmadinejad's victory is proof that Iran is the new Nazi Germany (every tinpot enemy has to be compared to Hitler).

And if they're barracking for people power, what are they then?

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Coral Sea Senior Member Offline American Politics Posts: 360 Chicago Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #82 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:07pm I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by, "barracking for people power." Could you please clarify?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #83 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:09pm Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:07pm: I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by, "barracking for people power." Could you please clarify? I think an American would phrase it... rooting for 'people power' Can't use it in Australia, rooting means smacking.
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Reply #84 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:13pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:09pm:

Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:07pm:

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by, "barracking for people power." Could you please clarify?

I think an American would phrase it... rooting for 'people power'

I tend to see it as a sign of American arrogance that many here assume that Iranians secretly want the same kind of society we do. A common American delusion is that everyone wants to be American. Yes, people are protesting in the streets for Mousavi, but that doesn't mean he actually won.

I also don't see why Americans would concern themselves over what the Iranian people actually want. It's not like this is a fellow Western nation.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:09pm:

Can't use it in Australia, rooting means smacking.

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Reply #85 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:19pm

Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:13pm:

I also don't see why Americans would concern themselves over what the Iranian people actually want. It's not like this is a fellow Western nation.

How about the dream of a fully democratic Iran that would hopefully then allow the US mission in Iraq to succeed?

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Coral Sea Senior Member Offline American Politics Posts: 360 Chicago Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #86 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:20pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:19pm: How about the dream of a fully democratic Iran that would hopefully then allow the US mission in Iraq to succeed? Why is the former important? I'm also not quite sure what our mission in Iraq is...
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41824 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #87 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:28pm What's your beef helian ?? by all accounts iran had a rigged election. democray does not exist there, though the people want it. my vote goes for democracy, the american ideals are very good. Very similar to aussie ones.
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Reply #88 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:28pm

Coral Sea wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:20pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:19pm:

How about the dream of a fully democratic Iran that would hopefully then allow the US mission in Iraq to succeed?

I'm also not quite sure what our mission in Iraq is...

Right now it would be to get the bugger out before the country collapses.

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Reply #89 - Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:31pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 12:28pm:

What's your beef helian ??

by all accounts iran had a rigged election. democray does not exist there, though the people want it.

my vote goes for democracy, the american ideals are very good.
Very similar to aussie ones.

Couldn't agree more.

And I'm also interested in what happens to Iran. I'm barracking for the collapse of the Islamic Republic and the advent of a fully democratic Iran.

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