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Reply #285 - Sep 21st, 2009 at 3:40pm
 
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The iranians have my 'spect.
very brave to do what they are doing


You respect a tiny little minority who are rebelling against and stirring up trouble for the government, that's all. You don't respect the views, wishes or inclinations of the Iranian masses at all, so stop pretending sprint. You pretend to be some great believer in democracy and the will of the people, yet you're clearly a hypocrite. The Iranian people overwhelmingly want Ahmedinejad, it's America's lackey in Afghanistan whose people don't want him, and who has been imposed by rigged elections.



Iranians Favor Diplomatic Relations With US But Have Little Trust in Obama

September 18, 2009

Full Report (PDF)
Questionnaire with Findings, Methodology (PDF)


A new WorldPublicOpinion.org poll of Iranians finds that six in 10 favor restoration of diplomatic relations between their country and the United States, a stance that is directly at odds with the position the Iranian government has held for three decades. A similar number favor direct talks.

However, Iranians do not appear to share the international infatuation with Barack Obama. Only 16 percent say that have confidence in him to do the right thing in world affairs. This is lower than any of the 20 countries polled by WPO on this question in the spring. Despite his recent speech in Cairo, where Obama stressed that he respects Islam, only a quarter of Iranians are convinced he does. And three in four (77%) continue to have an unfavorable view of the United States government.

"While the majority of Iranian people are ready to do business with Obama, they show little trust in him," says Steven Kull, director of WPO.

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On Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the survey finds that eight in 10 Iranians say they consider him to be the country's legitimate president. Ahmedinejad, who will visit the United States on Tuesday and address the UN General Assembly, was the focus of large-scale protests in Tehran after opposition supporters disputed the validity of his reelection in June.

WorldPublicOpinion.org (WPO) conducted the poll of 1,003 Iranians across Iran between Aug. 27 and Sept. 10, 2009. Interviewing was conducted by a professional survey organization located outside Iran which used native Farsi speakers who telephoned into Iran (8 in 10 Iranian households have a telephone line). The margin of error is 3.1 percent. WPO, a collaborative project involving research centers from around the world, is managed by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland.

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Obama is not viewed warmly by most Iranians, the poll indicates. Some 71 percent have little or no confidence that Obama will do the right thing regarding world affairs. Many also question his attitude toward Islam, with 59 percent saying he does not respect the religion and just 25 percent saying he does.

Iranians show high levels of mistrust in the United States. Eight in ten say the United States seeks to weaken and divide the Muslim world (unchanged from 2008). Three in four say the United States has the goal of imposing American culture on Muslim society.

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Source: World Public Opinion
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Reply #286 - Sep 21st, 2009 at 5:48pm
 

look back through the thread abu, there are many claims of fraud in iran.
even the head clerics there are "concerned" about ahmeds behaviour.

I am a great believer in democracy.

you on the other hand will not say one word against any muslim, so your views are pretty immaterial.
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Reply #287 - Sep 21st, 2009 at 8:23pm
 
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look back through the thread abu, there are many claims of fraud in iran.


Claims? Sorry.. I thought you meant there was actual evidence...  Grin

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even the head clerics there are "concerned" about ahmeds behaviour.


Well if the "head clerics" are concerned... then that proves fraud!!! Overthrow him!!

As the poll suggests, more than 80% of Iranians consider him legit. Only 62% of Iranians voted for him, so at least 18% of those who didn't vote for him still consider him to have been elected legitimately. The other 20% are just sore losers, and out of them about 0.0001% are taking to the streets in public displays of recklessness and bad manners Wink

Yet you've been duped into thinking there's mass dissent of the people against the oppressive old guard  Grin

You're a dreamer.
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Reply #288 - Sep 23rd, 2009 at 12:47pm
 
There was small demonstration again.
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Reply #289 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 10:56am
 

this guy does not care for the iranians, democracy or anyone in the world.
he is pleading for his 72 virgins in the muslim whorehouse in the sky.



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TEHRAN: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lashed out at world leaders last night for demanding access to Iran's newly disclosed uranium enrichment plant near the central holy city of Qom.

"The leaders of these countries made a historic mistake with their comments about the new plant. After this they also said Iran must give access to the facility as quickly as possible," state television quoted him as saying. "Who are you to tell the (International Atomic Energy Agency) and Iran what to do?"

Mr Ahmadinejad said Iran would not be "harmed", whatever happened at today's talks with the major powers in Geneva aimed at resolving the crisis over its atomic program.

"The negotiators can definitely adopt any policy that they want, but we will not be harmed," he said. "Iran has prepared itself for any condition and our nation has learnt over the past 30 years to stand on its feet and change any circumstance to its benefit."

Mr Ahmadinejad said the talks were an "exceptional opportunity for US and a few European countries to correct the way they interact with other world nations".

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei said Iran had flouted the law by concealing the plant.
"Iran has been on the wrong side of the law in so far as the IAEA regulation to inform the agency at an earlier date," he told India's CNN-IBN last night.
"Iran was supposed to inform us on the day it was decided to construct the facility. They have not done that."

Iran's atomic energy chief Ali Akbar Salehi had said he was ready to discuss world concerns about the plant, but ruled out bargaining about Iran's right to master the nuclear fuel cycle.

Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki has told UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon Tehran would not give up its "right" to nuclear technology.

The UN Security Council has imposed three sets of sanctions against Iran over its failure to heed repeated ultimatums to suspend enrichment.



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Reply #290 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:00am
 
Something's up. Apparently Western and Israeli powers have been aware of the plant's existence since 2005.
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Reply #291 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:11am
 
It's all about timing isn't it??

If they mentioned it 2 years ago... not much effect. If they mention it now, when things are getting tense, then we can get all the mindless fools running around in hysterics claiming Ahmedinejad's going to bring on Armageddon...
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Reply #292 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:27pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:11am:
It's all about timing isn't it??

If they mentioned it 2 years ago... not much effect. If they mention it now, when things are getting tense, then we can get all the mindless fools running around in hysterics claiming Ahmedinejad's going to bring on Armageddon...


Mindless fools like, ahem, Ahmadinnerjacket. The guy himself is talking about the Armageddon and the return of Bambi, I mean, the hidden messiah of the Mohemedans.
I hope Israel wacks them hard. And they just might fly over Araby to do it. Wouldn't that just sum up everything beatufully?

At any rate. it's no use talking to fools like him.

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Reply #293 - Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:40pm
 

ahmad would be totally impossible to discuss anything with.

classic muslim closed mindset
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A month ago, Gen. Muhammad-Ali Aziz Jaafari, commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, vowed to stop further antiregime demonstrations in Iran and break what he termed "this chain of conspiracies." But this week the "chain" appeared to be as strong as ever: Students across the nation defied the general and his political masters by organizing numerous demonstrations on and off campus.

The various opposition groups that constitute the pro-democracy movement have already called for another series of demonstrations on Dec. 27, a holy day on the Muslim Shiite calendar. Meanwhile, the official calendar of the Islamic Republic includes 22 days during which the regime organizes massive public demonstrations to flex its muscles. Since the controversial presidential election last June, the pro-democracy movement, in a jujitsu-style move, has used the official days to undermine the regime.
On Jerusalem Day, Sept. 18, officially intended to express anti-Semitism, the opposition showed that Iranians have no hostility toward Jews or Israel. One popular slogan was "Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah! I give my life for Iran!" Another was "Forget about Palestine! Think about our Iran!"

On Nov. 4, the anniversary of the seizure of the U.S. embassy in Tehran in 1979, the opposition distanced itself from the regime's anti-American rhetoric. The democrats instead expressed anger against Russia and China, which are perceived as allies of the Islamic Republic. One slogan was "The Russian Embassy is a nest of spies!"

Most significantly, the movement that started as a protest against the alleged rigging of the election that gave a second term to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been evolving. The crowds' initial slogan was "Where Is My Vote?" and the movement's accidental leaders, including former Prime Minister Mir Hossein Mousavi, tried hard to keep the protest confined to demands such as a recount of the votes and, ultimately, a runoff in accordance with the law.

The slogans of the protestors are no longer about election fraud. Today they include "Death to the Dictator," "Freedom Now," and "Iranian Republic, Not Islamic Republic!" One slogan is a direct message to President Barack Obama: "Obama, Are You With Us or With Them?"

In short, the protestors no longer regard the present regime as the legitimate government of the country.

Both Mr. Mousavi and Ayatollah Mahdi Karroubi, another defeated presidential candidate, tried to prevent attacks on the "Supreme Guide" Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in the hope of eventually making a deal with him. As part of such a deal, they promised to defend the Islamic Republic's nuclear program, according to sources close to the opposition. The crowds have rejected that by shouting: "Abandon uranium enrichment! Do something about the poor!"

It is clear the democracy movement is in no mood for deals with Mr. Khamenei, who they castigate for having betrayed his constitutional role of arbiter by siding with Mr. Ahmadinejad even before the official results of the election were declared. The demonstrators now burn his effigies, tear up posters showing his image, and chant violent slogans against him. One popular slogan goes: "Khamenei is a murderer! His guardianship is invalid!"

By cracking down ruthlessly on the protestors, the regime has only radicalized the movement. Even such notorious dealmakers as Hashemi Rafsanjani, a former president now opposed to Mr. Ahmadinejad, have made it clear they would not accept any formula that would leave the "landslide winner" in place.

Last week, Mr. Rafsanjani refused to attend a much-publicized "reconciliation event" concocted by Ali Ardeshir Larijani, the speaker of Iran's ersatz parliament. The reason? Mr. Rafsanjani did not wish to be seen under the same roof as Mr. Ahmadinejad. Later, in a speech in Mash'had, Mr. Rafsanjani spoke of the regime's "long, deep and, potentially lethal crisis."

To judge by their most popular slogans, demonstrators across Iran are bent on regime change. Even rumors that the regime is working on scenarios for ditching Mr. Ahmadinejad—ostensibly on "health grounds"—after the Iranian New Year in March, have failed to halt the spread of regime-change sentiments.

Given the nation's mood, Messrs. Mousavi and Karroubi have abandoned their earlier talk of "realizing the full potentials of the existing constitution." An adviser to Mr. Mousavi tells me that "They wanted to make an omelet without breaking eggs. They now realize that [the people] have moved faster than imagined." More significantly, perhaps, Mr. Mousavi appears to have put his plans for an ill-defined "green organization" on the backburner. He is beginning to understand that the antiregime movement is too wide to fit into a centrally controlled framework.



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Over the past six months, thousands of people have been arrested and hundreds killed in the streets. And yet, despite promises to squash the movement by Gen. Jaafari, it persists. To make matters worse for the regime, the Shiite clergy, often regarded as the backbone of the Islamic Republic, is beginning to distance itself from the Khamenei-Ahmadinejad tandem. Some ayatollahs, such as Messrs. Montazeri, Bayat, San'ei, Borujerdi and Zanjani, are especially annoyed at Mr. Ahmadinejad's claim of being in contact with the "Hidden Imam"—a messiah-like figure of Shiism whose second coming is supposed to occur at the end of times.

Mr. Ahmadinejad claims that the "return" is imminent and that he, as one of the "pegs" designated by the Hidden Imam to prepare the ground for the advent, has a mission of chasing the "Infidel" out of Muslim lands and liberating Palestine from "Zionist occupiers." In a speech in Isfahan last week, Mr. Ahmadinejad claimed that the pro-democracy movement was created by the Americans to sabotage his mission and thus prevent the return of the "Hidden Imam."

In response, a mid-ranking cleric in Qom tells me: "The way Ahmadinejad talks, he must be a sick man . . . by backing such a man, Khamenei has doomed the regime."

The Ahmadinejad-Khamenei tandem is also coming under attack for its alleged incompetence. The regime is now plagued by double-digit inflation, a massive flight of capital, and unprecedented levels of unemployment. Divisions within the ruling clique mean that the president has been unable to fill scores of key posts at middle levels of government. Rapidly losing its popular base, the regime is becoming increasingly dependent on its coercive forces, especially the Islamic Revolutionary Guard.

Revolutionary Guard commanders appear on TV almost every night, presenting themselves as "guardians of the system." Gen. Jaafari himself says he is attracted by the "Turkish model" in which the army acts as a bulwark of the republic.

However, the general may not have all the time in the world to ponder his next move. The pro-democracy movement is deepening and growing. Much work is under way to connect it to independent trade unions and hundreds of formal and informal associations that lead the civil society's fight against the evil of the Islamic Republic.

Iran has entered one of those hinge moments in history. What is certain is that the status quo has become untenable.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704240504574585853987954522.html

good on you iranians. break free of tyranny and into democracy

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A crowd of people have helped two convicts escape a public execution in Iran, officials there say.

The crowd overpowered security services and helped two men convicted of robbery to escape hanging in the province of Kerman, the Fars news agency reported.

The men were recaptured hours later, and justice department officials say they will be put to death on Wednesday.

Iran executes more people than anywhere else in the world except China, human rights groups say.

The members of the crowd who aided their escape will also be punished, officials said.

This year the Iranian government has increased the already high number of executions, possibly as a way of asserting its authority in the wake of the disputed presidential election result, BBC correspondents say.

Human rights groups accuse Iran of making excessive use of the death penalty but Tehran insists it is an effective deterrent that is used only after a lengthy judicial process.



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agreement with a muslim .............. don't believe it


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IRAN'S President ordered his nuclear chief yesterday to start producing higher-grade fuel, raising the stakes in a dispute with the West days after claiming to have accepted a UN-drafted deal.

The announcement, made by President Ahmadinejad on live television, drew an immediate reaction from Britain, which said that it was "clearly a matter of serious concern". Robert Gates, the US Defence Secretary, called for an increase in international pressure on Iran.

The US, Britain, China and other major powers have proposed that Iran send most of its low-enriched uranium abroad in return for nuclear fuel refined to a level of 20per cent for use in a Tehran reactor producing medical isotopes.

Mr Ahmadinejad appeared to accept the deal last Tuesday. However, a draft of the agreement seen by British MPs showed Iran still refusing to accept UN conditions, and yesterday Mr Ahmadinejad told Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation to start producing higher-grade reactor fuel.

"We had told them to come and have a swap, although we could produce the 20 per cent enriched fuel ourselves," Mr Ahmadinejad said at a ceremony marking the latest Iranian laser technology achievements. "We gave them two to three months for such a deal. They started a new game, and now I [ask] Dr Salehi to start work on the production of 20 per cent fuel using centrifuges."

The atomic energy chief Dr Salehi announced that Iran would begin the enrichment at the Natanz plant from tomorrow.

Mr Gates responded to Tehran's move by calling for a united stand. "The international community has offered the Iranian Government multiple opportunities to provide reassurance of its intentions. The results have been very disappointing," he said. "If the international community will stand together and bring pressure on the Iranian Government, I believe there is still time for sanctions and pressure to work. But we must all work together."

World powers fear that Tehran wants to enrich uranium to high levels for an atomic weapons programme. Iran insists its enrichment drive is peaceful. Under the UN deal the low-enriched uranium would be sent to Russia and France.




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