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Reply #240 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 12:25am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 13th, 2009 at 7:58pm:
they're simply putting down foreign inspired insurgents who are causing civil strife.



Simple as that, eh?

What's this, then? Blow me down wiv a fevver (no pun intended) if it ain't the usual Sunni murder squad. Foreign inspired, you say. You mean Muslims on both sides, shites and sunnis, are puppets of foreign powers?

The whole Islam caper must be a jooish plot, what?


Sunnis To Be Hung In Iran
Iran to hang 14 Sunni rebels in city park


Mon Jul 13, 2009
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will hang 14 members of a Sunni rebel group in public Tuesday, including a brother of its leader Abdolmalek Rigi, a semi-official news agency reported Monday.

Predominantly Shi'ite Muslim Iran says Jundollah (God's Soldiers) is part of the Sunni Islamist al Qaeda network and backed by the United States, Tehran's arch foe.

Fars News Agency quoted a local judiciary statement as inviting families of the group's victims and other people to come and watch the executions at 6:30 a.m. (0200 GMT) in a park in the southeastern city of Zahedan.
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Reply #241 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 12:49am
 
And the reign of terror burns on...
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Reply #242 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 1:08am
 
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Funny how, all of a sudden, you have your ears to the ground about shia affairs. Any other time you feign having no clue or knowledge about them.


About their religious doctrines I have very little knowledge, nevermind mixing up the two though, it's all the same isn't it? For such a simple minded danish anyway.

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You mean Muslims on both sides, shites and sunnis, are puppets of foreign powers?


Members of that group have admitted taking funding from U.S intelligence. Wouldn't surprise me really, the U.S has funded a lot of groups in the region, either directly or indirectly. Doesn't mean they're necessarily puppets, as they may not know where the funding is coming from. Often it's donated via "Friendly Arab regimes".

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And the reign of terror burns on...


So I take it you were unable to give one single reason that leads you to believe the elections were not authentic? You've based your whole opinion on nothing but hearsay? No evidence of vote rigging or the like? Funny, cos the entire Western world seems so sure it was rigged... yet nobody's even got a reason for why they think that?

Disgruntled citizens protesting doesn't equal evidence of election fraud whatsoever.
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Reply #243 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 8:45am
 

abu - their own officials within iran gave facts it was rigged.
over 100% of votes in some areas.
the exact same %age voting for the dictator in many regions.


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Reply #244 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 8:58am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14th, 2009 at 8:45am:
abu - their own officials within iran gave facts it was rigged.
over 100% of votes in some areas.
the exact same %age voting for the dictator in many regions.



Sprint, their own officials within iran "are just a small minority of pro-Western youth, who are 'rebelling' by naively carrying out the commands of Iran's enemy" (c) abu.
But now after rev islamic guards and friendly palestinian killers fixed them up so they won't give these facts again.

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Reply #245 - Jul 14th, 2009 at 9:17am
 

tallow - no, well I see their pont of view.

I'ld think twice before giving out the facts when faced with the thought police of a rampant regime.

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Reply #246 - Jul 15th, 2009 at 1:21pm
 
China had their little spark on Square 20 years ago and I suspect that Iran regime will keep their grip for a while yet.
Happy to be proven wrong.

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Reply #247 - Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:36pm
 

this may seem wildly unrelated, but i have decades of experience in investing that says it is blowing a very loud trumpet.



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AN Iranian airliner has crashed into farmland in the northwest of the country, with all 168 people on board dead.

The Caspian Airlines plane crashed near the city of Qazvin, northwest of the capital, just 16 minutes after takeoff from Tehran's international Imam Khomeiny airport, local media said.

"All people aboard... the crashed plane are dead. The plane had 153 passengers and 15 crew members,'' said Mohammad Reza Montazer Khorasan, the head of the disaster management centre in Iran's health ministry.

The official IRNA news agency said the plane took off at 11:33 am (0703 GMT) en route to the Armenian capital of Yerevan.

"The passenger plane was completed destroyed and the wreckage was scattered everywhere,'' IRNA quoted Qazvin police chief Masoud Jafari Nasab as saying.

"Most probably all passengers on board have been killed in the crash,'' he said, adding that the plane had crashed in farmland near the village of Janat Abad.

English-language state-run channel Press TV said the plane was believed to be a Russian-built Tupolev.

Iran, which has been under years of international sanctions, has suffered a number of aviation disasters over the past decade.

Twenty-nine people were killed in September 2006 when an airliner came off the runway after landing in the eastern city of Mashhad and burst into flames.

In November 2006, an Iranian military plane crashed on takeoff at Tehran's Mehrabad airport, killing all 39 people on board, including 30 members of the elite Revolutionary Guards force.

Iran's civil and military fleet is made up of ancient aircraft in very poor condition due to their age and lack of maintenance.

The Iranian regime is barred by sanctions from buying American Boeing planes or European Airbus craft when they include a significant number of US parts.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25787314-2703,00.html

iran is sinking beneath the waves of islamism.
islam is to follow.
abu - suck shiite
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Reply #248 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:56am
 
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The US government on Wednesday expressed its sympathy for relatives of the 168 people who were killed when their Caspian Airlines flight crashed in Iran earlier in the day.

Washington "extends it condolences to the families of those who lost their lives in today's crash," read a brief statement by State Department spokesman Ian Kelly.

"We are working through the US embassy in Yerevan and the Swiss Protecting Power in Iran to determine whether any American citizens were on board," the statement said.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h0rJzJFCRbc3MUG3vAICanu1NlJw

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Reply #249 - Jul 17th, 2009 at 2:33pm
 
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The veteran head of Iran’s nuclear programme has resigned in the chaotic aftermath of President Ahmadinejad’s disputed re-election.

Officials gave no reason for the sudden departure of Gholam Reza Aghazadeh, but he has been close to Mir Hossein Mousavi, the man millions of Iranians consider to be the real winner of the June 12 elections.

The outgoing nuclear chief is also allied to Hojatoleslam Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, a powerful former President and cleric, who backed Mr Mousavi’s candidacy and is an enemy of Mr Ahmadinejad.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6717202.ece

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Reply #250 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 4:44pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 14th, 2009 at 1:08am:
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Funny how, all of a sudden, you have your ears to the ground about shia affairs. Any other time you feign having no clue or knowledge about them.


About their religious doctrines I have very little knowledge, nevermind mixing up the two though, it's all the same isn't it? For such a simple minded danish anyway.



For Momemmedans, politics and religion are one. A Monammedan told us so (not that we didn't know it before):


abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:48pm:
So either way, whichever specific definition you choose, Islam is anything but secular. In Islam, ALL matters are spiritual, there is no wordly.



So, my bearded pseudo-moor, you are speaking out of both corners of your mouth, as usual.  All the Mohammedan thugocracies are governed in the spirit if Mohammedanism. It shines through.

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Reply #251 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 9:51pm
 


it's official, the rats are leaving the sinking ship.


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IRANIAN riot police used batons and tear gas to break up defiant protests after prayers in Tehran, where Hashemi Rafsanjani, one of the country's most powerful clerics, warned the regime was "in crisis".

Rafsanjani - a bitter rival of the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei - broke his month-long silence to issue a warning that the Islamic Republic had lost popular support. His address stopped short of directly attacking Khamenei or President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose victory in June's poll has been widely denounced as a fraud.

"Doubt has been created," Mr Rafsanjani said. "Where people are not present or their vote isn't considered, that government is not Islamic."

The unrest in the capital continues as Iranian Intelligence Minister, Gholam Hossein Mohseni Ejeie, accused Israel of planning to assassinate Ahmadinejad about the time of last month's presidential election.

The Fars News Agency quoted Mr Ejeie as saying Israeli officials met members of the exiled Iranian opposition group, People's Mujahedeen of Iran, to execute the plan.

Tensions between Iran and Israel have worsened under Ahmadinejad. Israel is one of the main opponents of Iran's nuclear program.



http://www.smh.com.au/world/iranian-regime-in-crisis-as-rioters-clash-with-polic...
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Reply #252 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 2:05pm
 

And those who want democracy are maintaiing their stance.

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DEFIANT opposition supporters have staged fresh protests in Tehran, witnesses say, after powerful cleric Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani called for detainees held in a post-election crackdown to be freed.

Mehdi Karroubi, a defeated presidential candidate, came under attack from men in plainclothes on his way to the prayers, according to his son Hossein and Fars news agency.

Thousands of supporters of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, chanting "Ya Hossein, Mir Hossein!" and "Allahu Akbar" (God is Greatest), demonstrated around Tehran University, where Rafsanjani led Friday prayers attended by the former premier and Karroubi, witnesses said.

The demonstrations were held in defiance of a ban slapped on such gatherings by the Iranian authorities in the wake of deadly unrest sparked by the disputed June 12 re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The witnesses said riot police and Islamist vigilantes were deployed on streets near the university to prevent the demonstrations, but protesters managed to evade them to stage brief gatherings.

They said several people had been arrested, including a leading lawyer and women's rights campaigner, Shadi Sadr, and police had fired tear-gas and paintball bullets to disperse crowds, especially near the interior ministry.

"Shadi called me from an unknown location and said she was arrested by plainclothes officials who forcefully got her into a car," Hossein Nilchian, her husband, said.

Thousands of people, many wearing green bands showing support for Mousavi, converged on the area surrounding Tehran University, including many families with children, witnesses said.

One witness said policemen smashed the windows of several cars whose drivers were sounding their horns, a tactic adopted by protesters. The crowds later dispersed.

The post-election anti-Ahmadinejad protests held last month set off the worst crisis in the Islamic republic since the 1979 revolution.

The ensuing violence left at least 20 people dead, many scores wounded and hundreds arrested, according to official figures.

Friday prayers offered a new opportunity for opposition supporters to stage demonstrations. They last took the streets on July 9 to commemorate the anniversary of bloody student unrest in 1999.

Mousavi, who attended the Muslim prayers marking his first public appearance in a month, has charged that the June vote was rigged and that he in fact had won the contest.

A photograph released by the ISNA news agency showed him sitting in between dozens of his supporters at the prayer venue.

Rafsanjani, who was Iran's president between 1989 and 1997, said events since the election had broken the trust of Iranians that now needed to be restored.

"Our key issue is to return the trust which the people had and now to some extent is broken," Rafsanjani said.

"It is not necessary that in this situation people be jailed. Let them join their families. We should not allow enemies to rebuke and ridicule us because of detentions," said Rafsanjani, who backed Mousavi in the poll.

He said he had formulated a possible solution to the current political crisis, which he had discussed with members of two key institutions which he heads, the Expediency Council and the Assembly of Experts.

"A large group of ... people of the country say they have doubt" about the result of the election, the cleric said. "We should work to address these doubts."

The foreign media was banned from covering the Friday prayers. Rafsanjani urged that curbs on the media be lifted, saying all sides should be able to "say what they want logically and without fighting".

Karroubi's son Hossein said his father was attacked at the door of the university.

"When my father got out of the car in front of the university, some plainclothes forces standing by the door attacked and assaulted him," Hossein was quoted as saying on the website of Karroubi's party, Etemad Melli.

"His turban fell. They insulted him using very abusive and outrageous names, he said, adding that he saw "the plainclothes commander with a wireless telling them they had done a very good job."
The Fars news agency said some "suspicious people beat Karroubi".


http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25799713-5012764,00.html
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Reply #253 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 9:38am
 
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At Friday prayers July 17 at Tehran University, the influential cleric and former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani gave his first sermon since Iran’s disputed presidential election and the subsequent demonstrations. The crowd listening to Rafsanjani inside the mosque was filled with Ahmadinejad supporters who chanted, among other things, "Death to America" and "Death to China." Outside the university common grounds, anti-Ahmadinejad elements — many of whom were blocked by Basij militiamen and police from entering the mosque — persistently chanted "Death to Russia."


This interesting chant competition gives us this far the strongest insight into the great divide occurring in Iranian leadership and where the puppets strings controlled from.

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Reply #254 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:15am
 
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There are two factions claiming to speak for the people. Rafsanjani represents the first faction. During his sermon, he spoke for the tradition of the founder of the Islamic republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who took power during the 1979 Iranian Revolution. Rafjsanjani argued that Khomeini wanted an Islamic republic faithful to the will of the people, albeit within the confines of Islamic law. Rafsanjani argued that he was the true heir to the Islamic revolution. He added that Khomeini’s successor — the current supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei — had violated the principles of the revolution when he accepted that Rafsanjani’s archenemy, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, had won Iran’s recent presidential election.


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