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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #210 - Jun 30^th, 2009 at 9:35am The 'men of god' have spoken. Now if the damn British would stop poisoning the water supply with anti-theistimine, they could get on with driving the country into further disgrace and war. Iran upholds Ahmadinejad's win after recount
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41824 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #211 - Jul 1^st, 2009 at 9:56pm This is pretty amazing. NO NEWS coming out of Iran. It seems experience, brutality and intolerance has won the day over liberty and democracy. The value of a free vote is sowen deep though. I have faith in people justly taking what is right for them.
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Reply #212 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 11:12am

Good on them, brave to stand up and be counted.

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THREE of Iran's most prominent opposition leaders flagrantly courted arrest yesterday by denouncing President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's government as illegitimate, one day after the regime said it would tolerate no more challenges to the election result.

Mir Hossein Mousavi, the former prime minister who lost the election, said the suppression of dissent was tantamount to a coup. "It's not yet too late," he declared on his website.

"It is our historical responsibility to continue our protests to defend the rights of the people ... and prevent the blood spilt by hundreds of thousands of martyrs from leading to a police state."

Mohammed Khatami, 65, a popular former president, accused the regime of mounting a "velvet revolution against the people and democracy" and called the security crackdown "poisonous".

Mehdi Karroubi, 72, another defeated presidential candidate, said that "visible and invisible forces blocked any change in the executive power".

He continued: "I will continue the fight under any circumstances and using every means."

The regime responded by shutting down his newspaper.

One Iranian analyst expressed astonishment at their audacity. "It looks like they're trying to become living martyrs," he said.

"At the very least they will be put under house arrest. At worst they will be taken to jail and charged with threatening national security."

The regime might hesitate to lock them up because of the prospect of hundreds of thousands of supporters taking to the streets. "The only question is how big the demonstrations would be and how long the people could fight the might of a military state," the analyst said........

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25724321-2703,00.html

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Reply #213 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 2:48pm

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/03/2615745.htm?section=justin

IRANIAN LEADERS URGE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST MOUSAVI
By Middle East correspondent Anne Barker

Iran's hardline leaders have called for legal action to be taken against opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi over the post-election protests that have rocked the country.
Iranian authorities blame Mr Mousavi for the wave of violence that has killed at least 20 people since the disputed election on June 12.
Hardline parliamentarians and lawyers are now planning to write to judicial authorities complaining about the opposition leader's actions in encouraging the protests. They want him taken to court.
A student branch of the pro-government Basij militia, which helped suppress the protests, has supported the move.
Mr Mousavi rejects claims that he is to blame for the violence.
He still insists the election was rigged, and says the government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is now illegitimate.

I have suspicion that hardline leaders will be able to convict opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi of whatever crime they wish.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41824 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #214 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:06pm happy - I am sure they could have him publically beheaded.
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Happy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 559	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #215 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:10pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:06pm: happy - I am sure they could have him publically beheaded. Amazing, we appear to have prophet like abilities to predict future.
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Reply #216 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:21pm

Happy wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 2:48pm:

I have suspicion that hardline leaders will be able to convict opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi of whatever crime they wish.

It's possible he could be arrested... And if the regime is in terminal decline, the 'guardian council' might want to exit on a river of blood.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41824 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #217 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 3:48pm happy - hahahha, I doubt it. helian - in a way the regime are cornored. It appears mousavi will continue on his calls, as will other politicians. If the regime 'arrest" him, they will provide cause for his supporters. if the regime have a genuine revote, they will be voted out now.
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Reply #218 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 4:51pm

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since the disputed election on June 12.

The only reason the elections are 'disputed' is because the Iranian people didn't elect the American patsy who the colonialists wanted.

The protests have been amongst a tiny minority of the country's population, and the simple fact stands that the vast majority of Iranians SUPPORT and LOVE Ahmedinejad, because he's their man, and not America's.

The only way America is going to overthrow the Iranian government is the same way they overthrew the Iraqi and Afghani ones.

Besides the U.S and Britain have both killed their own citizens before during protests, so don't claim this is purely an Iranian phenomena. Riot squads anywhere around the world are likely to use force when dealing with people who don't respect the rule of law. Whether that force is reasonable or not can vary from situation to situation, but I'm sure Ian Tomlinson, who was captured on CCTV being bludgeoned to death by UK riot squads as he peacefully walked home from work would've considered the force he suffered to be unreasonable.

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Reply #219 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 5:43pm

You are a seriously warped individual.
The US has no candidate.
The US has no electoral influence.
The hierachy in Iran selects who the candidates will be, the people whomever they choose choose someone already ok'd from the top.
Mousavi used to be involved in terrorism and was very anti US. he was involved in the US Embassy bombing in lebanon and the US hostage crisis.
Do wake up to yourself Abooby.

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Reply #220 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 6:15pm

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Mousavi used to be involved in terrorism and was very anti US.

Used to be? Look at the terror he's caused on Iran's streets over the past few weeks. He's a terrorist now.

Just because he was once anti-U.S doesn't mean the U.S is today anti-Mousavi, we all know they want him in power, because he's malleable, they can work with him to fulfil their goals in the region, they can't work with Ahmedinejad, he's not flexible to their needs, he's flexible to the Iranian people's needs.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #221 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 7:05pm You are seriously deluded if you think Ahmadinejad is a good thing for world peace and for Iranians.
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Happy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 559	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #222 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 7:49pm Grendel wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 7:05pm: You are seriously deluded if you think Ahmadinejad is a good thing for world peace and for Iranians. In a weird way he just could cause that, if for example NATO or dreaded US or even Israel are forced to get rid of him.
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Reply #223 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 8:01pm

Happy wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 7:49pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 7:05pm:

You are seriously deluded if you think Ahmadinejad is a good thing for world peace and for Iranians.

In a weird way he just could cause that, if for example NATO or dreaded US or even Israel are forced to get rid of him.

And triggering an arms race in the Middle East... Something even the Arab states don't want.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8263 Gender:	Re: Ahmadinejad's rival tells it like it is ........ Reply #224 - Jul 3^rd, 2009 at 8:40pm Me think that Arabs would prefer camel races but their shia brothers don't give a camel poo about that. However from geopolitical point of view Russian energy monopolies stand to be winners in Caspian oil basin.
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