I completely with you on this one helian.
Their violent actions are disgusting

though I am not keen on soccer - good on the guys there.

where will this end .

.................In this strange civil war, internet cafes have become the command-and-control centres of the opposition.

A man who had been sitting opposite me in a booth called me over - he gave me headphones and wanted me to watch and hear the 26-year-old music student dying during Saturday's protest in Tehran. Then he showed me others. Then someone else in the cafe beckoned me to their terminal. They had photos they wanted me to see.

We're all sitting at our computers in a suburb of Tehran, looking at the latest pictures from the city's killing fields. This is an unofficial opposition cafe.
People speak relatively freely here. The moment they realised I was a foreigner they began showing me pictures. Any connection to the outside world is seen as vital. Each day people sit downloading from their mobile phones.

The man who showed me the Neda video had had a friend killed the day before. He wasn't there when it happened but says his friend was shot in the head. He took 30 seconds to die.

Another man in the cafe says 30 people were killed in Saturday's protest, not the 10 the government is admitting to. They say people are being killed all around the country.

A woman in another booth calls me to her computer. On her screen is a picture of a young man lying on a slab. His eyes are covered with little white patches, but on his left side - where his heart must have beaten - he has a huge gash which could have been made by a machete. She shows me two other photos - one is of a militiaman caught with a huge knife in his hand. The other is of a riot policeman smashing the front windscreen of a car. The second photograph is crucial - it shows what many Iranians have been saying for a week: that the police and militia are causing much of the damage around Tehran that is being shown on official TV to create hostility towards the protesters.

One of the most sophisticated cities in the world has become a place of slaughter. It also shows how this strange civil war is being waged - bloodshed in the streets, crackdowns by a regime with all the weapons, then next day young people head to the computers to try to send pictures of the brutality as far and wide as possible.

What is happening in Iran at the moment is an uprising by the internet generation. They live in Iran but their minds and imaginations travel each day on the web. In my two weeks here, I've found a clear pattern - those who use the internet support the uprising. I have not yet found one exception to that rule.

Those opposed to the uprising tend to be older people; religious conservatives for whom the unrest is a Western-inspired revolt against their Islamic state or they believe President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has helped poor people in country areas.

In the short term, the regime will probably be able to crush the uprising. This is, after all, a civil war in which only one side has weapons.

But, in the long term, unless the ayatollahs find a way of silencing global communication, they have a serious problem on their hands.

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The EU governments' new tough talk will not change the outcome in Iran. That will depend on how much the followers of Mir Hossein Mousavi are prepared to risk, whether they can carry many in the military with them (so far not) and how much violence the regime is prepared to use to put down the uproar. A lot, we should assume.

The bloodiness of the 1979 revolution is one indication. So, explicitly, are the warnings by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei that he would hold Mousavi and others responsible for deaths and injuries by the security forces.

But in making its calculations the regime cannot ignore the international opprobrium and penalties that would follow a brutal crackdown - that is, one even worse than there has been already. Yesterday Italy said it was willing to open its embassy in Tehran to wounded protesters, along with other European nations. Italy and Germany are Iran's biggest EU trading partners. Italy's move follows Sweden's question to other European Union countries as to whether they might jointly open their embassies to demonstrators - a discussion that has not yet gone far but sends a signal to Tehran about the strength of feeling across the EU.

Ummah, ummah, stick it up your jumpah, as my scouser friends would say.

It’s impossible not to feel sympathy for the Iranian people

, suffering not only now under what is effectively Stalinist repression and brutality, but also for the abuse they have endured for the 70 years prior to the Islamic Revolution.

The British government’s defrauding the Iranian people of oil revenue for 50 years before the democratic election of the Mossaseq Government, followed by their conspiracy with the CIA to overthrow Mossadeq and then 25 years of enduring the despotic Shah, totals over a century of trauma for Iranians.

For the West, the aftermath of this meddling has resulted in arguably the worst example of blowback in the history of foreign intervention, sowing the seeds of militant Islamism throughout the Middle East.

Oil, democracy and a CIA coup

Free and open TRUTH, gets, establishes, justice.

And peace will come to abide, alongside justice [i.e. where justice is established].

Want PEACE?

Seek and support free and open TRUTH.



Like i said, it isn't rocket science.

helian,

"Ask not for whom the bell tolls, for it tolls for thee."

helian,

Tea, and sympathy for the Iranian ppl?

I am sure that they really appreciate that helian.

Are you ready to confront moslems [in Australia], with those lies of ISLAM yet?

....i.e.

"ISLAM is peace."

If not, perhaps you could just give us some more platitudes, expressing your solidarity with the Iranian people in their time of trouble.

If you want peace, seek and support free and open TRUTH.

Free and open TRUTH, gets, establishes, justice.

And peace will come to abide, alongside justice [i.e. where justice is established].

Want PEACE?

Seek and support free and open TRUTH.

Like i said, it isn't rocket science.[/size][/i]

Yes, we the West was not so concerned for the Iranian peoples freedoms and rights in the past which ironically opened the door to Nationalistic religious fanatics to gain power.

It would certainly be refreshing if the West would try to make it right, however unlikely.