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Reply #90 - Jun 8th, 2009 at 6:04pm
 
And you wonder why we don't want that here  Roll Eyes
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Reply #91 - Jun 8th, 2009 at 6:10pm
 

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Singh, who said he has received several calls to attend the rally in Sydney on Saturday apparently being organised by members of the Indian community in the city, expressed his opposition to it.

"Nobody knows who the organisers are, even the police command does not know," he said. Hundreds of Indians, mostly students, had earlier this week organised a massive rally in Melbourne to protest the recent spate of attacks on Indians in Australia.


That’s almost funny, I thought that rallies have to be approved to be legal.

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Reply #92 - Jun 9th, 2009 at 3:48pm
 
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From ABC, 9 Jun. 09

POLICE DENY INDIAN ATTACKS RACIST

Police have played down reports of racial violence in western Sydney, where up to 200 Indian nationals have rallied in response to attacks on two students.
Two men in their 20s were assaulted in separate incidents about 9pm in Harris Park last night. The offenders were described as Middle Eastern in appearance.
The victims suffered minor injuries and did not press charges, but the incident sparked a protest by Indian nationals in Parramatta, which culminated in three men of Middle Eastern appearance being assaulted.
The Superintendent of the Parramatta Local Command, Robert Redfern, says the attacks on the Indian men were opportunistic, not racially motivated.
"There is no suggestion, as I say, that these incidents last night were racially motivated," he said.
"Certainly it would appear to us that they are opportunistic and this is an area of Harris Park where there is a very large Indian community, but we have been in communication with the Indian community for a very long time in this area.
"They are young people, often students, often working the sort of jobs that students work when they're young - late at night or early in the morning - so they're at risk of being assaulted opportunistically in the early hours of the morning or very late at night."
But the protesters say the attacks are becoming more frequent and police are not doing enough to stop them.
"I never come back home at night time," student Ajay Kumar told AM.
"If I finish my work, I stay there. Why? Because I know if I come back, someone [will] smash me, someone [will] take my money. I know. Because I'm not safe here. Because Australian police are s***."
A spokesman for the NSW Lebanese Community Council, Elie Nassif, says any individuals making trouble should be dealt with by police as a criminal matter.
However, Mr Nassif says there has been tension in the local area between a small section of the Lebanese and Indian communities which needs to be addressed.
"Whether we like it or not it is happening, but as community leaders we should work together to wipe all this [out]," Mr Nassif said.
Meanwhile, police say they are disappointed two Indian men who were attacked do not want to lay charges.
The Deputy Commissioner Dave Owens has urged locals not to resort to violence, and to report all assaults to police.
"There are a number of myths and misconceptions amongst certain community groups that if they come forward and report a crime we're interested in whether they are working more hours than what their visa entitles them to," he said.
"What I'm saying is that's not what we're interested in. We're interested in locking up offenders who break the law."
Police say they will have extra officers on patrol in Sydney's west after the violence.
Federal Education Minister Julia Gillard says Australia is a safe destination for international students, despite the recent attacks on Indian students.
"It's a country that's welcomed international students," she said.
"It's a country that when international students leave it and we ask how they've experienced it, overwhelmingly they say they've had a positive experience in Australia with the Australian people and in our Australian educational institutions.
"But to the extent that we see any international student hurt or at risk, we obviously want to make a difference."



Looks that even Police thinks that they were just attacks and robberies and victim from India was just a coincidence.

Best if all attacks could be prevented, every race in Australia would benefit from that.
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Reply #93 - Jun 9th, 2009 at 4:30pm
 
Go multiculturalism...  Arabs and Indians beating each other up in Sydney.

They aint AUSTRALIANS...
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Reply #94 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 3:09am
 
Brutal truth about attacks

    * Paul Sheehan
    * June 10, 2009

ANOTHER bashing of an Indian student, another angry demonstration by fed-up Indian residents, another brick in the wall of the misconception that Indians in this country have become the frequent victims of violent white racism.

This misconception has hardened into belief in India, where widespread media coverage of the attacks has played on old sensitivities about the treatment of Indians by whites and white Australia.

The perception is wrong. Indian students are being attacked in Australia, with at least 100 incidents in Melbourne and Sydney during the past year. The violence is undeniable, the targeting of Indians is undeniable, and the problem is unacceptable and embarrassing.

But the distorted story of white racism has been helped along by the prevailing sensibilities of reporting of crime in Australia, with skittishness about detailing the gritty reality that most violent street crime in Sydney and Melbourne is not committed by whites. The prison populations confirm this.

The attacks on Indians have followed this pattern, with the crimes committed by a polyglot mix reflecting the streets - white, Asian, Middle Eastern, Aboriginal, Pacific Islander.

The most recent attacks, in Harris Park this week, allegedly involved assailants of the proverbial "Middle Eastern appearance". The assault on Monday night was followed by a retaliatory attack by a big group of Indians. Police said three men "of Middle Eastern appearance" were set upon in Harris Park after about 200 Indian men converged on the street after hearing of the latest attack. In Melbourne, an assault on an Indian student on a train was recorded on video and footage depicting the attack was posted on YouTube. The video shows a swarm of young men robbing and repeatedly attacking the student. Most of them do not appear to be white.

A recent assault on an Indian student in Glebe was committed by a young offender described as Aboriginal. Sydney University is bounded on the east and west by Glebe and Redfern and both have crime hot spots involving Aboriginal communities.

Another recent assault on an Indian student, by a knife-wielding assailant in Port Melbourne, involved three attackers identified as Caucasian.

The ethnicity of the attackers thus varies from crime to crime. The police are telling the truth when they describe the attacks as largely motivated by opportunism, because Indian students work late at night, live in lower-cost neighbourhoods, and are regarded as soft targets.

It is also true that Indians have been targeted, hence the demonstration by about 1000 Indian students in Melbourne 10 days ago, and this week's eruption by hundreds of Indian men in Harris Park, which has Sydney's largest concentration of Indian residents. The suburb has experienced a spate of attacks on Indians in recent months.
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Reply #95 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 3:21am
 
Yes it looks as though basically it's ethnics attacking ethnics. There was an incident a couple of days ago when a group of Asians attacked and stabbed a Muslim school boy.

I don't think we can pretend anymore that multiculturalism is working. We were taught tolerance, but the new Australians haven't been taught the same.

It's getting pretty bad when a foreign government steps in and demands Australia do something about these racist attacks against their people - but our government is powerless. They have to follow another agenda. It's no coincidence that the EU, the US and Australia all introduced multiculturalism 3 decades ago.
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Reply #96 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 10:45am
 
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I don't think we can pretend anymore that multiculturalism is working. We were taught tolerance, but the new Australians haven't been taught the same.


No they have been taught that 'tolerance' means they are immune from ALL criticism. By people like your good self, and they still are, because any criticism of an ethnic group who gathers together to commit crime is racism. So people are dying because we would rather not 'offend' anyone than deal with the real problems and issues.

Whatever happened in Melbourne, in Sydney, its muslims attacking Indians. Fortunately, most of the Indians here know this. Its just India itself doesnt.
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Reply #97 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 11:16am
 
mantra wrote on Jun 10th, 2009 at 3:21am:
Yes it looks as though basically it's ethnics attacking ethnics. There was an incident a couple of days ago when a group of Asians attacked and stabbed a Muslim school boy.

I don't think we can pretend anymore that multiculturalism is working. We were taught tolerance, but the new Australians haven't been taught the same.


It's getting pretty bad when a foreign government steps in and demands Australia do something about these racist attacks against their people - but our government is powerless. They have to follow another agenda. It's no coincidence that the EU, the US and Australia all introduced multiculturalism 3 decades ago.




Wow!



mantra,

THANK YOU!

....for stating that.




mantra,

Even more important than [false, pseudo] 'tolerance',
.....is TRUTH.


Dictionary,
pseudo = =
· adj. not genuine; fake, pretentious, or insincere.
· n. (pl. pseudos) a pretentious or insincere person.






Quote:
Free and open TRUTH, gets, establishes, justice.

And peace will come to abide, alongside justice [i.e. where justice is established].

Want PEACE?

Seek and support free and open TRUTH.



Like i said, it isn't rocket science.




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #98 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 3:54pm
 
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From ABC, 10 Jun. 09

2 ARRESTED AS INDIAN STUDENTS PROTEST

Indian students have protested for a second night in Sydney's west, calling for greater police protection.
About 70 young men blocked off an intersection at Harris Park just after 8:00pm, demonstrating against what some claim is racially-motivated attacks against Indian students perpetrated by members of the Lebanese community.
Two men were arrested and taken to Parramatta Police Station.
One was released without charge and the other was served a notice to appear in court later this month.
Rippon Singh, a student at the protest, believes they are being targeted.
"We are contributing to the real community, we are paying the taxes, we are doing everything that is possible and we are getting bashed up," he said.
The group began to disperse just before midnight after spending a second evening calling for greater protection.
One man who was at the protest says police cannot guarantee their safety.
"Police said that 'you can be dismissed from here'. I said 'OK, we are all going to be dismissed from here, you just give me a guarantee that you can stop these incidents over here'," he said.
"The police said that I cannot be giving you a guarantee. I said 'why?'. He said they do not have enough force."

INDIAN POLITICS
In a speech to India's Parliament, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh slammed the attacks as senseless violence, saying some of them were racist in nature.
Australian High Commissioner to India John McCarthy says there are not any systemic racist attacks going on.
"Some of the crimes committed against them have had a racial element in them and I think there has been increased concern among the Indian student community as a whole in Australia," he said.
"That's understandable."
India's Foreign minister, SM Krishna, has urged Indian students to stay calm in the wake of the attacks on them.
"I would like all Indian students to be patient," he said.
"They should be restrained. They have gone there to pursue higher studies and they should concentrate on that, rather than retaliate."

'TIME FOR RESTRAINT'
Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith has also called for calm, saying state and federal authorities are doing all they can to make sure foreign students are safe.
"I simply echo the comments of my Indian counterpart. The time has now come for restraint, the time has come for calm," Mr Smith said.
"People should simply let the police authorities get on with their jobs. We know that both in Victoria and New South Wales those relevant authorities are working very hard on this."
Indian students in Australia have written to the Indian Prime Minister, asking him to protect them from violent attacks.
The request was made by the chief editor of Indian Student Magazine Australia, on behalf of the students.
But another editor at the magazine, Chirayil Ajitha, told ABC News Breakfast that Indian officials should be sent to Australia to assess the situation.
"It's better somebody from India coming and seeing the situation and giving a report to the Indian government, that will be easing this tension of the situation," she said.



Actually we can learn something from students from India too.

We could make big demonstration and demand safety and security from Police to stop all theft, robberies and the like in the whole of Australia.

Why Indians only should feel safe?    Smiley
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Reply #99 - Jun 10th, 2009 at 6:14pm
 
Calanen wrote on Jun 10th, 2009 at 10:45am:
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No they have been taught that 'tolerance' means they are immune from ALL criticism. By people like your good self, and they still are, because any criticism of an ethnic group who gathers together to commit crime is racism. So people are dying because we would rather not 'offend' anyone than deal with the real problems and issues.



That sentiment is known as Emotional Correctness, PC's newer, more sinister spin-off, pun intended. (Rudd attacked the criticism of stimulus payment to the dead as being monstrously insensitive to their grieving families.)

That tinted people hate each others' guts is somemthing the EC/PC crowd is unable to process. Only whitey is capable of such baseness and so culpability for their actions ultimately rests with the racist society around them.


I also wonder - where is the rent-an-imam/Lebanese Friendship Spokesthingy mob warning about backlash against muslims?







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Reply #100 - Jun 11th, 2009 at 9:40am
 
Calanen wrote on Jun 10th, 2009 at 10:45am:
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I don't think we can pretend anymore that multiculturalism is working. We were taught tolerance, but the new Australians haven't been taught the same.


No they have been taught that 'tolerance' means they are immune from ALL criticism.
By people like your good self, and they still are, because any criticism of an ethnic group who gathers together to commit crime is racism. So people are dying because we would rather not 'offend' anyone than deal with the real problems and issues.

Whatever happened in Melbourne, in Sydney, its muslims attacking Indians. Fortunately, most of the Indians here know this. Its just India itself doesnt.






What is tolerance [of 'others']?

Is tolerance, a 'blank cheque', on their behaviour, given to certain minorities, and to particular social groups?
Should it be???
Many people in our Western societies today, seem to suggest, or believe, that the answer to that question, should be,
'Yes'.

I would argue that 'tolerance' does not mean that 'ethnics' or particular social groups, engaged in 'wrong doing', must be immune from [all] criticism.
Confronting and condemning 'ethnics', or particular social groups [or indeed *anyone*], engaged in violent, or criminal activity,
.....is not 'racist'.
.....IT IS COMMON SENSE.





"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."

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Reply #101 - Jun 11th, 2009 at 12:52pm
 
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From ABC, 11 Jun. 09

INDIANS PROTEST ATTACKS FOR THIRD NIGHT
By Di Bain for AM

More angry scenes erupted in Sydney's west overnight as tensions increased between local Indian students and the Lebanese community.
About 70 students gathered in the heart of Harris Park, but this time they were confronted by local Lebanese youths.
Police were forced to hold back the angry mob in the third straight night of protests.
The Indian protesters continue to say they are being attacked by Lebanese youths and police are ignoring their pleas for protection.
A man was issued with a court notice for carrying an offensive weapon after being allegedly found with a piece of timber during a police search.
Earlier, Parramatta Council held a meeting with police, India's consul general and members of Sydney's Indian community, with organisers saying students had agreed to stop protesting.
But the flare-up that occurred after the meeting has left Indian leaders exasperated and some locals are concerned there could be fresh outbreaks of violence in the backstreets of western Sydney.

LOCAL LEBANESE VIEWS
The ABC's Di Bain was in Harris Park last night, gauging how Lebanese community members are reacting to the commotion.
Lebanese man Allan has lived in Sydney's west for 30 years. He visits the same Lebanese patisserie every night and is nonplussed by recent protests nearby.
"This is a show - what they're putting on," he said.
"I've been around the world four times and there would not be a better country on Earth."
He says the Lebanese community is not scared by the Indian protesters' threats.
"The Lebanese community in Harris Park or Parramatta doesn't exist," he said.
"Truly, they're peaceful people, same as the Indian people."
John, a 23-year-old Harris Park local of Lebanese descent, was also unfazed by the recent protests.
"I don't think there's any tension. I think it's a bit of a joke," he said.
"I think it's pretty funny - they're putting a good show on. It's a bit of a laugh."
And he doesn't think the Lebanese pick on Indians.
"Just because there's one bad person, like that might have done something wrong to them, doesn't give them the right to cause all this riot for everyone else," he said.
"Like, there's old people that live here as well, there's residents. I think it's pretty stupid."



Slowly comes out who are the perpetrators.

"Bit of a joke" - another to the collection of:
Misunderstanding
Taken out of context
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Reply #102 - Jun 11th, 2009 at 6:48pm
 
Now if only the Indian press would get it right.
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Reply #103 - Jun 11th, 2009 at 7:14pm
 
Yeah, like Aussies haven't had problems with da fully sick Lebos over the years.
I can't remember special police protection being deployed for anybody else's benefit.



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