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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #75 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:38pm Somehow, that isn't sounding too bad. I'd love to wave a traditional European sword at minority politicians in Parliament.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #76 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:45pm Or you could just sneeze on them..
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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #77 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:46pm Would that make them self-loathe or hate me more?
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Reply #78 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:48pm

No AA...

RACISM

not freedom of religion was the topic...

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Puhlease don't make me laugh, Malaysia is a racist Muslim country. Didn't you know? BTW I know quite a few Muslims, had some as neighbours for many years.

My mother lives in Penang and according to her, it's very tolerant. On my numerous trips to visit her, I've found the same. I guess you know better though.

And yes I knew better and proved it.

Or don't you know the difference between race and religion... or is it just that Muslims don't.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #79 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:51pm Grendel, that came later.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #80 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:52pm Quote: Would that make them self-loathe or hate me more? I don't even know anymore
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Reply #81 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:58pm

Almost forgot...

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And where did I condemn Australians?

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Australia is built on racist policies. I'd hope in a comparatively enlightened time such as this, we'd be able to think a little differently.

just one of who knows how many...

Unlike Malaysia our government does not back racism or persecution of religion not even indirectly.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #82 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:02pm From colonial times, through Federation and the 20th century, the Australian governments policy towards immigrants has been racially discriminatory.
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Reply #83 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:09pm

aikmann4 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 5:33pm:

Malaysia, clearly, is a nation by Malaysians, for Malaysians.
http://i39.tinypic.com/6te0so.jpg

But like Indonesia or Pakistan or the entire Middle East and Africa, Malaysia is a 'make belief' nation. Nationhood is a European idea and a fairly recent one. It is a direct consequence of temporal power becoming completely dominant in politics.

The United Nations, for example, is so named in order to pretend that, say, Samoa or Malaysia or Upper Volta are as much a nation as France or Spain or Russia. United Countries would make the differences too obvious, so we pretend that they are all nations.

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Reply #84 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:20pm

Regardless of whatever they are or whether they are really a 'nation', the region is dominated by those that are part of the Malaysian group, which has made it explicitly clear that they aren't going to have it any other way. It might be multicultural and multiracial, but other groups in the "multi" know who they have to defer to at the end of the day.

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Reply #85 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:29pm

aikmann4 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:20pm:

Regardless of whatever they are or whether they are really a 'nation', the region is dominated by those that are part of the Malaysian group, which has made it explicitly clear that they aren't going to have it any other way. It might be multicultural and multiracial, but other groups in the "multi" know who they have to defer to at the end of the day.

In other words, the multiculturalism of 'dhimmitude' in the not-necessarily-Muslim kind of way.

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Reply #86 - Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:43pm

It isn't exactly a non-sensible policy from a Malaysian point of view though. There's absolutely no way ethnic Malaysians can compete with the Chinese, who outclass them in every single way. The policies are there so the Malaysians can have a hold over their own region as they see fit, and for that end, the means are evidently working...

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Reply #87 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 9:43am

aikmann4 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:43pm:

It isn't exactly a non-sensible policy from a Malaysian point of view though. There's absolutely no way ethnic Malaysians can compete with the Chinese, who outclass them in every single way. The policies are there so the Malaysians can have a hold over their own region as they see fit, and for that end, the means are evidently working...

Malaysia will have a similar problem to Fiji if and when ethnic Chinese and Indian Malaysians become the majority... That problem being - the end of democracy and the lurching from one kind of dictatorship to another to avert (or as a result of) a race based civil war.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism is great Reply #88 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 9:58am Go multiculturalism...
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Reply #89 - Apr 18^th, 2010 at 11:59am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 18^th, 2010 at 9:43am:

aikmann4 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2010 at 6:43pm:

It isn't exactly a non-sensible policy from a Malaysian point of view though. There's absolutely no way ethnic Malaysians can compete with the Chinese, who outclass them in every single way. The policies are there so the Malaysians can have a hold over their own region as they see fit, and for that end, the means are evidently working...

Malaysia will have a similar problem to Fiji if and when ethnic Chinese and Indian Malaysians become the majority... That problem being - the end of democracy and the lurching from one kind of dictatorship to another to avert (or as a result of) a race based civil war.

Could this be happening though? I can't possibly see generally high SES Chinese outbreeding generally lower SES Austronesians, though there's obviously a chance with the Indians.

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In 1987, Malays had a TFR of 4.51, Chinese had TFR of 2.25 and Indians had TFR of 2.77

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