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Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:32am
 
Are we safe anywhere?  Australia must be looked upon as some sort of rich, stupid nation where people come here to visit,  break our laws and get ridiculously light sentences. A maximum of two years is all these criminals are getting. When are our governments going to get serious and start imposing harsher laws on scam artists and do a more thorough check on visas? 


EASTERN European crime syndicates are using tourist visas to enter Australia and go on multi-million-dollar fraud sprees as part of criminal "world tours".

Crime figures from Romania and Bulgaria have launched scams along the eastern seaboard.

Members of eastern European gangs are also behind sophisticated burglary, shoplifting and pickpocket rings.

Police are investigating Russian and eastern European syndicates who steal unsuspecting Australians' bank details via the internet.

Fraud syndicates are also selling stolen bank-account details on internet "markets" with encrypted, password-protected websites.

Romanian and Serbian criminals are also involved in large-scale drug-running in NSW and Victoria.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that police believe an alleged ATM card "skimming" scam by a Romanian syndicate busted this month has defrauded about 1000 NSW victims of millions of dollars.

The NSW Fraud Squad believes there are more victims who have not yet realised their bank accounts have been plundered and the money siphoned back to Romania and other parts of Europe.

In the past six months, skimming devices that read card details have been attached to 40 ATMs in central Sydney, the Eastern Suburbs, the Northern Beaches and the inner west.

Four Romanians staying in hotels at Potts Point and Darlinghurst have been arrested this month and Fraud Squad detectives have issued arrest warrants for another two people.

Five Romanians have been arrested in Victoria over the alleged scam, which has also claimed victims in Queensland.

Victorian police are seeking six other people for questioning.

Two of the men arrested with skimming devices in Sydney have been convicted and sentenced to maximum two-year jail sentences, with a recommendation they be deported on release.

The jailed pair, Romeo Druga, 33, and Valentin Lazar, 37, are appealing against the severity of their sentences.

Fraud Squad detectives are also preparing to extradite a Bulgarian-born man from Canada over a major skimming operation carried out in Sydney in 2005.

Four Bulgarians were jailed for the scam but more fled overseas.

Fraud Squad commander Detective Superintendent Col Dyson said eastern Europeans and Russians presented a "huge" fraud threat.

"For some time now, they've been emerging as very active in all sorts of technology-enabled crime," Supt Dyson said.

Investigations had shown the scammers went on "world tours" and typically hit Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney, he said.

They either travelled direct from eastern Europe or stopped first in countries such as Canada.

"They generally come in on a (three-month) visitor's visa," Supt Dyson said.

"We know from immigration records that they come in and out of the country quite frequently."

Other groups that have visited Sydney recently include alleged Bulgarian pickpockets targeting female shoppers in Sydney's CBD.

Albanian thieves and safecrackers have targeted the Eastern Suburbs in the past, and police sources said Serbian shoplifters had perfected the practice of ripping off Sydney retailers.

Queensland authorities said Romanian crime gangs were entrenched as drug dealers in Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney and Perth.

Australian Crime Commission chief executive John Lawler confirmed Eastern European crime gangs, including those with Romanian backgrounds, posed a serious threat in Australia.

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Reply #1 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:41am
 
What?! White and non-Muslim? Surely not.  Wink
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Reply #2 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:14am
 

2 years jail is the max !!!!!!!!!!!

What a bargain, makes us tax paying employees look like idiots.
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Reply #3 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:15am
 
But these people are alright the're white and not muslims as helian said,funny isn't it these blokes could walk down the street without even a side glance, but put a turbin on their heads and they turn into terrorists.
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Reply #4 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:36am
 
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But these people are alright the're white and not muslims as helian said,funny isn't it these blokes could walk down the street without even a side glance, but put a turbin on their heads and they turn into terrorists.

True. And you've gotta feel sorry for Sikhs... Usually not white but also non-Muslim.

The obession with Muslims is blinding us to the fact that sub-cultures of our own or white people who 'look like us' are more willing and able to commit violent crime against us. Like underage prostitution, theft and violence in certain suburbs of a major Australian city being committed mainly by young recent British migrants.
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Reply #5 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 2:02pm
 
It does pose incredibly difficult problems for implementing immigration policies to try and deal with organised crime gangs.
For decades the Romanians have been here, after fleeing Ceausescu's brutal regime, and a country rife with corruption, illegal arms, drugs, and eastern european organised crime gangs.

They quickly took over Australia's heroin trade, and proved strong rivals to the Vietnamese drug rings for the lucrative illegal drug dollar.

They grew in wealth and power, they expanded their criminal  activities to encompass cyber crime through expertise acquired from their connections with the east european mafia, but however, attracted far less media, and subsequent public attention than one would expect, and if this is due to the fact that they blend in more easily, because of their caucasian appearance, then it highlights a weakness they were only too happy to exploit.

One aspect of the current refugee influx from the regions of Afghanistan, and Iraq, is the fact that the area they are fleeing from, is now the world's largest Heroin producing region, and it is safe to assume we will see some of these new arrivals willing to risk the dangers of importing illegal drugs here.

They rightfully assess that the huge potential profits, are worth the risk.

So the pressing question is how do we counter these criminal elements, and stop them thriving in a system that is far more tolerant, and far less brutal, than those from which they have fled?

Some will advocate stiffer sentencing for any actually caught, which may act as a slight deterrent, but while the potential financial rewards remain so great, there will never be a shortage of someone else to replace the ones caught, even if they were threatened with receiving the death penalty.

So do we just put up the shutters, and try and stop all immigration?

Do we try and remove the incentive for people to traffic drugs, by removing the financial incentives, by changing our policy of prohibition?

Do we invest more in anti-crime task forces to specifically target these organised gangs?

Do we impose higher standards for entry to Australia?

Should we implement a tiered system of citizenship, where migrants must prove their good character, over a significant period of time, before they are eligible to be granted the usual rights of an Australian citizen?

It is a significant problem already, and is likely to only get worse, as people who come from backgrounds where violence and corruption are accepted as everyday aspects of existence, are not forced to adjust to a system which demands much higher moral standards from it's citizenry.

It is a significant quandary with lots of problems, and no easy answers but even so, we cannot just throw up our hands in despair and try to hope it just sorts itself out.
We need action, but firstly we need to see our government devise a plan which can be fair, and humane, and also effective.

Unfortunately we have never seen any government, or even any party, with the courage to seriously address the most pressing issue of drug trafficking, which provides these gangs with the money and power to expand their range of criminal enterprises.

Is this because they fear the political fallout, often seen instigated from talkback commentators, and callers who will pillory any changes which they could naively describe as going soft on drugs, or crime.
Instead we see all governments persist with failed policies which will only see these problems grow, and that will only change, when the public finally recognise that we need to try something new, if we are going to effectively tackle the problem of illegal drugs, and the raft of criminal activities that flow from it.

Any suggestions on how we should tackle it should be fully explored.

What do you guys think?
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Reply #6 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 3:22pm
 

decriminilising all drugs would stop the profit motive from that sector.

Taking ALL of their possessions when caught and them permanently deporting them is a fairly good deterrant I would think.
Not that any deterrant will stop some people.
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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:04pm
 
Yup, drugs need to be made a medical problem, not a police one. Of course the cops enjoy the War on Terror™ and if that is wound up they will be moved to Traffic Divn Smiley
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Reply #8 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 4:35pm
 
Romanians are not even true Europeans. They are the descendants of GYPSIES from the sub continent.
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