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Reply #15 - May 1st, 2009 at 1:41pm
 
mantra wrote on May 1st, 2009 at 1:37pm:
oceanz wrote on May 1st, 2009 at 10:26am:
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As far as I see it, the primary nature of man is to be a coward and woman to be a souless abberation...

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There's some truth in that unfortunately.

I very kindly beg to differ here guys..but do you really think so?


He only used the words man and woman singularly so there would have to be some humans on the planet who fit this description.


ok, you have a point.
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Reply #16 - May 2nd, 2009 at 8:02pm
 
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Notice the noise in the background - the men weren't listening to a word she said, although that's nothing new.


Yes the entire robot is built around the "Off switch".
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Reply #17 - May 2nd, 2009 at 9:53pm
 
[quote author=oceansblue link=1240040082/0#0 date=1240040082]  

could men become redundant in a future world..

Do women need men.?


The answer is no, women don't need men - I don't need a man for money, security, protection, home/vehicle maintenance or any of the other purposes men have generally been good for in the past. If I want to breed I don't need to enter into a relationship, or even an arrangement with a man - I can get what I need through a medical procedure and I'm not referring to a sex change operation.

Will men become redundant? probably not but only because they're still good for sex and make cute pets.
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Reply #18 - May 2nd, 2009 at 10:17pm
 
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Do you see how beneficial an "Off switch"will be?

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Reply #19 - May 2nd, 2009 at 10:52pm
 
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Clearly I meant most women are evil souless ghouls, and most men are unassertive pussies that need to wake the bugger up.

The west is primarily vagina run, and it sucks. In all the cultures where women rule, nothing gets done, and everybody is weak and oppressed!

smacking Arabs got the right idea. They spend their days smoking hookahs and being one with the land! There's no crime, no pollution, no taxes... And if somebody player hates, they get stoned to death. I smacking wanna' be Muslim!
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Reply #20 - May 2nd, 2009 at 11:09pm
 
I've heard this phrase bandied around by men a bit lately: "I need a strong woman".

WTF???
Is this a joke? No, it's no joke, it's real and it's a disgrace. Muslim men must find western cattle quite humerous.

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Reply #21 - May 3rd, 2009 at 8:50pm
 
Amadd wrote on May 2nd, 2009 at 11:09pm:
I've heard this phrase bandied around by men a bit lately: "I need a strong woman".

WTF???
Is this a joke? No, it's no joke, it's real and it's a disgrace. Muslim men must find western cattle quite humerous.



maybe you should ask one why they want a strong woman..I dont like weak men for instance..
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Reply #22 - May 3rd, 2009 at 9:23pm
 
oceanz wrote on May 3rd, 2009 at 8:50pm:
I dont like weak men for instance..

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Then you must be a lesbian. because by the very nature of western culture, man is to be weak or alienated.

A strong man, is a "chavunistic" man. Men who are domineering and proud of themselves are seen as a pox of some backward age. As if any recollection of the past is a sign of defeat for rights, progress, and the general well being of the nation.. Roll Eyes

The obsession with equality leads ultimately to more supramacy then if people were just admittedly preadjudice. Women don't want strong men. They want men who do what they tell them, and simply pretend to have their own thought. Let's say for example you have a woman who likes to party hard and go out clubbing and rub up against other people. Especialy guys. This sortof behaivor might've been acceptable when she was "on the market". But now it's not. She's in a relationship, and she should be considerate of her man's feelings. All the same, you would not expect a taken man to be going around slutting about with other women just to prove they were still hot. Yes, they do it sometimes, but that doesn't make it right now does it?

So what do women expect? They want a man who won't stop them and will just circlejerk. "Well it's her life, I can't control her actions". Like hell you can't! The strong do not make excuses. If they want something, they take it. Regardless of what other people think. Love doesn't mean you let someone do whatever the bugger they want too. Love is jealous, coveting, greedy, suspicious, and sometimes downright mean. And do you know why?

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Because if they weren't, that means they don't give a poo about you! If I'm not controlling and overly suspicious, you need to start worrying.... cause that means I'm detatched, unconcerned, and probably sleeping around with some other broad who's willing to hear my problems...

Ofcourse it's perfectly acceptable in our culture for the woman to boss around a man. "For their own good". Because ofcourse women are always right. As we've seen in every sitcom ever.

This is why the only real show I've liked is I Love Lucy. I think it takes the most realistic approach to gender roles, relationships, and genders as a whole. In the end, Ricky tries to be the alpha male, and is often just a loudmouth dumbass who has to cover his tracks. Lucy's a dumbass too and is just hoping Ricky won't findout some new mess she's gotten herself into. In the end they findout both are dumbasses, regardless of who submits and who dominates. And they realize, hey... Love just means being stupid together.
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Re: Will men become redundant in a future world?
Reply #23 - May 3rd, 2009 at 10:34pm
 
Jim Profit wrote on May 3rd, 2009 at 9:23pm:
oceanz wrote on May 3rd, 2009 at 8:50pm:
I dont like weak men for instance..

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Then you must be a lesbian. because by the very nature of western culture, man is to be weak or alienated.

Not in my world Jim..and dont have a gay bone in my body btw.


A strong man, is a "chavunistic" man. Men who are domineering and proud of themselves are seen as a pox of some backward age.

Not in my world Jim..a strong woman ( me ) doesnt see the point of weak insipid men..


As if any recollection of the past is a sign of defeat for rights, progress, and the general well being of the nation.. Roll Eyes

The obsession with equality leads ultimately to more supramacy then if people were just admittedly preadjudice. Women don't want strong men. They want men who do what they tell them, and simply pretend to have their own thought.

OMG..so much cynicism in one so young..and thats a generalistion..


Let's say for example you have a woman who likes to party hard and go out clubbing and rub up against other people. Especialy guys. This sortof behaivor might've been acceptable when she was "on the market". But now it's not. She's in a relationship, and she should be considerate of her man's feelings. All the same, you would not expect a taken man to be going around slutting about with other women just to prove they were still hot. Yes, they do it sometimes, but that doesn't make it right now does it?

So what do women expect? They want a man who won't stop them and will just circlejerk. "Well it's her life, I can't control her actions". Like hell you can't! The strong do not make excuses. If they want something, they take it. Regardless of what other people think. Love doesn't mean you let someone do whatever the bugger they want too. Love is jealous, coveting, greedy, suspicious, and sometimes downright mean. And do you know why?

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Because if they weren't, that means they don't give a poo about you! If I'm not controlling and overly suspicious, you need to start worrying.... cause that means I'm detatched, unconcerned, and probably sleeping around with some other broad who's willing to hear my problems...

Ofcourse it's perfectly acceptable in our culture for the woman to boss around a man. "For their own good". Because ofcourse women are always right. As we've seen in every sitcom ever.


This is why the only real show I've liked is I Love Lucy. I think it takes the most realistic approach to gender roles, relationships, and genders as a whole. In the end, Ricky tries to be the alpha male, and is often just a loudmouth dumbass who has to cover his tracks. Lucy's a dumbass too and is just hoping Ricky won't findout some new mess she's gotten herself into. In the end they findout both are dumbasses, regardless of who submits and who dominates. And they realize, hey... Love just means being stupid together.

Some very good points Jim..as usual you are very informative

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Re: Will men become redundant in a future world?
Reply #24 - May 5th, 2009 at 1:53am
 
Jim Profit wrote on May 3rd, 2009 at 9:23pm:
.....The strong do not make excuses. If they want something, they take it. Regardless of what other people think. Love doesn't mean you let someone do whatever the bugger they want too. Love is jealous, coveting, greedy, suspicious, and sometimes downright mean. And do you know why?

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Because if they weren't, that means they don't give a poo about you! If I'm not controlling and overly suspicious, you need to start worrying.... cause that means I'm detatched, unconcerned, and probably sleeping around with some other broad who's willing to hear my problems...






Love [i.e. to be loved] isn't 'freedom' to do as we wish.

Love [i.e. to be loved] isn't 'licence'.


Dictionary,
licence = =
1 a permit from an authority to own or use something, do a particular thing, or carry on a trade (especially in alcoholic liquor). Ø formal or official permission.
2 a writer’s or artist’s conventional freedom to deviate from facts or accepted rules.
3 freedom to behave without restraint.




And love, isn't 'jealous'.

'Jealous', that isn't love,
.....'jealous', is just pure selfishness.

Like a selfish parent, who won't allow, and will not encourage a child to grow, and to seek and choose their own dreams, and make mistakes.


'We're only human, we're supposed to make mistakes.'


YOU'RE ONLY HUMAN
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If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were.
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Quote:
If you love somebody
If you love someone
If you love somebody
If you love someone, set them free
Set them free
Set them free
Set them free

If it's a mirror you want
Just look into my eyes
Or a whipping boy
Someone to despise
Or a prisoner in the dark
Tied up in chains you just can't see
Or a beast in a gilded cage
That's all some people ever want to be

If you love somebody
If you love someone
If you love somebody
If you love someone, set them free
Set them free
Set them free
Set them free

You can't control an independent heart
Can't tear the one you love apart
Forever conditioned to believe that we can't live
We can't live here and be happy with less
So many riches
So many souls
With everything we see that we want to possess



If You Love Someone Set Them Free
Sting
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Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour.







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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #25 - May 5th, 2009 at 7:23am
 
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Yeah Yadda, great job blindly quoting somebody else. Rather then rationalizing it for yourself.

It still doesn't challenge the fact if you care about something, why would you ever allow it to leave you? You can love something inspite of pure selfishness. That's why you love it. Because it completes you.

Like hell you're going to "set it free". If I let something "go free" that's because I don't care about it's future, or my relationship with them. I let a stray cat "go free" to get runned over or starve somewhere. Because it's not my problem. I let some stranger "go free" to live a life of poverty and dissapointment. Because it's not my problem.

Parents are controlling because they care. The compassion causes fear for the well being of the ones they love, and the fear of loss. Noone wants to lose... What sortof twisted mind cococted "love is apathy"?

Probably the same retard who conned "love your enemies". If you loved everyone, even your enemies... What value does love have?

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It's not hard to imagine. Love is like an investment. If I've worked hard, and put alot of work into it. There is no way in hell I'm just going to be like "whatever" and "set someone free" or be some communist prick and be like "everyone is equal teehee!"

Hippies need to learn2love.

Granted, I'm not surprised. The same demographic that doesn't care about the victims of brutal murder because "they care about the murderer's rights", or their aborted fetuses for some social darwin approach to living... They completely alienate the innocent and their own children. I'm not surprised at all they wouldn't know how to love a spouse.
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Reply #26 - May 5th, 2009 at 11:40pm
 
JP,

One day you will come to learn that love means letting go, not grasping on to 'it', for dear life.

'It' = = what you attribute as 'of value' to yourself.


The essence of love is acceptance [of others?].

Love has nothing to do with our ability to enforce or empower our 'passion' [desires].






"We are who we protect, i think.
What we stand up for."

Sophie Neveu - The Da Vinci Code [movie]




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Reply #27 - May 6th, 2009 at 8:11am
 

yadda - I agree with you. It takes courage, you certainly might "lose".

Then again, 'grasping on" is not love.

loving is giving.

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Reply #28 - May 8th, 2009 at 12:10pm
 

Just returning to the original question as to wether men might in the future be rendered redundant.

I dare say that such a thing is conveivable.

BUT.

If science/technology where to make one sex unecessary for reproductive purposes why would the other remain "essential"?

Aldous Huxly's celebrated novel, - "Brave New World," - provides one speculative glimpse of what such a society might look like.

George Orwell in his equally acclaimed dystopian classic, - "1984," - furnished an alternative view in which scientists in the world of Ingsoc are actively seeking to make it physically impossible for humans to produce children by natural means.

I find it difficult to see how any matter of major social import can ever honestly be described as a "womans issue" or a "male issue."

Surely if something impacts negatively on one sex it will impact negatively on the other.

If not directly, then indirectly.

What say you?
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Reply #29 - May 21st, 2009 at 8:49pm
 
This thread is weird, and WTF did the Muslim thing come into it?

If it comes to technology, only one sex is needed but technology will soon run into a genetic dead end.

We became top of the heap because of genetic diversity. Any practice that acts to remove genetic diversity will see us extinct sooner rather than later.

Applying that principle we can tell that GMO seeds are going to lead to some genetic/environmental disaster like the Irish potato famine: lack of diversity means a GMO crop is ultra-vulnerable to some pest or disease, and viruses are always mutating.

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