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Apr 8th, 2009 at 11:16pm
 

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..............Today is Ash Wednesday, the official start to Lent, the 40-day season prior to Easter, in which Christians through sacrifice, fasting and prayer remember Christ’s Passion, suffering and eventual death on the Cross.

The length represents the 40 days which Jesus, according to Scripture, spent in the desert, where he endured temptation from the Devil.  The three traditional disciplines of Lent are prayer, fasting, and almsgiving. Often Christians either give something up in recognition of Christ’s sacrifice for man on the Cross, or take positive action for Lent.  This year in his Lenten message, Pope Benedict XVI’s big theme is fasting . He recalls St Augustine's dictum that fasting was
a means of restoring spiritual balance to a soul stained by sin.” ..........




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Reply #1 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 2:47pm
 
It is the best time of year, IMHO. The weather is great not too hot yet not too cold.
Mullet have gathered in estuary in great numbers and are full of roe. They are ready for the Great Mullet Run and so are bigger fish.
I have my old beech rods with Alveys ready too. Hope weather stays dry and westerlies will start to blow.

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Reply #2 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 3:00pm
 
tallowood wrote on Apr 9th, 2009 at 2:47pm:
It is the best time of year, IMHO. The weather is great not too hot yet not too cold.
Mullet have gathered in estuary in great numbers and are full of roe. They are ready for the Great Mullet Run and so are bigger fish.
I have my old beech rods with Alveys ready too.
Hope weather stays dry and westerlies will start to blow.




tallow,

Sounds great, especially the fishing part.

You have made me envious!

I haven't been fishing in years.

And that is my fault.         Smiley
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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:09pm
 
Yes, I haven't been fishing in years either, and I love fishing, and put it right up there with my favourite past times, just after, romance, family, surfing, climbing, skiing, music, gambling, eating, reading, sleeping, drinking, sailing, writing, drawing, cooking, woodwork, cycling, horseback riding, go-karting, trail riding, swimming, bushwalking, watching AFL, shark wrestling, bear baiting, and shooting stuff.
Yep, there is nothing like waiting there with a line and hooking a fish, reeling it in, and smashing it senseless and then getting fish guts all over my hands, that is what I call fun.
The thrill of the chase, the battle of wits, man against fish, now there is a challenge worth pursuing.
If I ever try it sober, I may even catch something worth eating.





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Reply #4 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:34pm
 
What easter means to me is ancient celebrations of the spring equinox (in the northern hemisphere).
Not surprisingly, the sun and the dawn of new life has been worshipped for hundreds or even thousands of years before the advent of Christianity.

The name “Easter” was likely derived from Eostre, the name of the Anglo-Saxon lunar goddess, as was the name for the female hormone estrogen. Eostre’s feast day was held on the first full moon following the vernal equinox.
Some say that easter egg hunts originated from hunts for magic mushrooms which were prevalent around this time of year in parts of the northern hemisphere and used for ritualistic purposes during easter. This is why it is still traditional today to paint eggs to have the appearance of magic mushrooms.
It's quite possible that those who ate too many shrooms saw men rising into the sky and went on to become Christians.
"But I swear dude, he did rise from the tomb and into the sky!!"  Grin

Contrary to Christian legend, J.C. is just an allegory of the sun.


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Reply #5 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:48pm
 
I remember when my daughter was little, she asked why they call it "Good" friday, and I explained that people who believe that jesus is god, celebrate that day as the day he was killed.

KILLED, she said, Why would they want to celebrate him being killed?

I explained that they believed that three days later he came back to life, from being dead, went and saw all his old pals, for a few weeks, then just floated up into the sky, and went to heaven without dying again.

"They must be cuckoo in the head" she said, I couldn't help but laugh, and agreed that it never made sense to me, but also to remember all the really nice people she knows who do believe it, and the thing that is important is not what they believe, but if they are nice or not, and if they are nice, it would not be kind to hurt their feelings by making fun of what they believe.

I know she is kind by nature, but ultimately the responsibility lies with the believers, if they do not want to have their beliefs ridiculed, they should try and have less ridiculous beliefs, and sooner or later she will let them know that she thinks it is cuckoo.

For her, like me Easter has always had a deep spiritual relationship to the consumption of chocolate.
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:48pm
 
oops double post.
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Reply #7 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 9:21pm
 
Yeah it's funny how kind and honest kids can be without having any concept of God or religion.

I think I'll have my easter in a couple of weeks when the eggs are going cheap. Until then, big fat juicy steaks will do.




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Reply #8 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 11:18pm
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:34pm:
What easter means to me is ancient celebrations of the spring equinox (in the northern hemisphere).
Not surprisingly, the sun and the dawn of new life has been worshipped for hundreds or even thousands of years before the advent of Christianity.

The name “Easter” was likely derived from Eostre, the name of the Anglo-Saxon lunar goddess, as was the name for the female hormone estrogen. Eostre’s feast day was held on the first full moon following the vernal equinox.
Some say that easter egg hunts originated from hunts for magic mushrooms which were prevalent around this time of year in parts of the northern hemisphere and used for ritualistic purposes during easter. This is why it is still traditional today to paint eggs to have the appearance of magic mushrooms.
It's quite possible that those who ate too many shrooms saw men rising into the sky and went on to become Christians.
"But I swear dude, he did rise from the tomb and into the sky!!"  Grin

Contrary to Christian legend, J.C. is just an allegory of the sun.



Amadd, they don't have mushrooms in Saxony and Jutland in spring, mushrooms need warmer temperature of summer, it is more probable that they were intoxicated by eating too many March Hares.

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Reply #9 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 11:51pm
 
Intruiging how a child can see the inanity of the arcane symbolism which is as anacronistic as observing a fertility celebration in the southern hemisphere... Now if we were celebrating an Autumnal event (like a down under Oktoberfest) say, 'Harvest Week'... different story.
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Reply #10 - Apr 10th, 2009 at 10:24am
 
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Amadd, they don't have mushrooms in Saxony and Jutland in spring, mushrooms need warmer temperature of summer


I don't know about the mushroom story Tallo, I think it's just a speculative rumour. However, I think that different varieties of mushies can grow at different times of year depending on their location.

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Now if we were celebrating an Autumnal event (like a down under Oktoberfest) say, 'Harvest Week'... different story.


Oktoberfest has been pretty much banned here, but Autumnfest might be good idea. Just what type of harvest might you be talking about there Helian? Hmmm?

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Reply #11 - Apr 10th, 2009 at 10:32am
 

Easter is a time to consider sins, punishment, redemption and balance.

It seems whenever a sin is committed, an offence is made there is a price to pay.
Maybe the price is a fine, maybe just that "bad" feeling.
There is a price paid, in punishment. To right the wrong.
Then I am redeemed and in balance again.

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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2009 at 10:44am
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 10th, 2009 at 10:24am:
Oktoberfest has been pretty much banned here, but Autumnfest might be good idea. Just what type of harvest might you be talking about there Helian? Hmmm?

I's thinking.... like...ahhh... wheat.... and.... ummm... barley.... and... ahhh....................................... ............. I'm thinking more like...... wheat.... and..... ahhhh.... barley.... and..... I was.... what was it?.... yeah.......


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Reply #13 - Apr 10th, 2009 at 12:25pm
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 10th, 2009 at 10:24am:
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Amadd, they don't have mushrooms in Saxony and Jutland in spring, mushrooms need warmer temperature of summer


I don't know about the mushroom story Tallo, I think it's just a speculative rumour. However, I think that different varieties of mushies can grow at different times of year depending on their location.
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There are no snow mushrooms and old dear pagans did not have indoor laboratories back then.
BTW, hippies and neopagans do celebrate equinox on 22 of April every year. However equinox as its name suggests is about equality of Day and Night hours. "The sun and the dawn of new life" is more appropriate to celebrate on the First Day after winter solstice when sunlight hours start to increase.

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Reply #14 - Apr 10th, 2009 at 12:59pm
 
tallowood wrote on Apr 10th, 2009 at 12:25pm:
Amadd wrote on Apr 10th, 2009 at 10:24am:
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Amadd, they don't have mushrooms in Saxony and Jutland in spring, mushrooms need warmer temperature of summer


I don't know about the mushroom story Tallo, I think it's just a speculative rumour. However, I think that different varieties of mushies can grow at different times of year depending on their location.
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There are no snow mushrooms and old dear pagans did not have indoor laboratories back then.
BTW, hippies and neopagans do celebrate equinox on 22 of April every year. However equinox as its name suggests is about equality of Day and Night hours. "The sun and the dawn of new life" is more appropriate to celebrate on the First Day after winter solstice when sunlight hours start to increase.


Why would they celebrate equinox on the 22 April?

Wasn't the Winter Solstice in the north celebrated on 25 December - the first day which is perceptibly longer after solstice?
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