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Reply #90 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:11pm
 
http://www.petitionproject.org/qualifications_of_signers.php

over 31,000 signatures from the US alone.
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Reply #91 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:14pm
 
Here's one his cohorts:

William Kininmonth is an Australian climate change skeptic. His only listed qualification is "Director of the Australasian Climate Research Institute" [1], but the Institute is listed as simply a trading name for "Kininmonth, William Robert", and is based at his private residence in Kew, Australia. [2]. It has no website, phone number or existence separate from Kininmonth.

In a letter to to The Age newspaper, Kininmonth wrote that "Greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and their direct impact is to cool the atmosphere.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

OMG!!!!!!!!!!! It's difficult to find good help these days.

Yes, this thread is quite hilarious Skippy.
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Reply #92 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:19pm
 
Running to cheersquad bozos like skippy is hardly doing you any good.
he doesn't even read whats written and when he infrequently does its only one side of the argument.

So BOB CARTER...  address the person not some other person.

sheesh...  basic debating skills go right out the window with you eh hypocrite.

Al Gore Mr credibility for you...  eh?  Whats' that j-curve boy.  How many mistakes in an Inconvenient lie?
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Reply #93 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:22pm
 
William Kininmonth is an Australian meteorologist noted for his views as an opponent of global warming theory and frequently writes on the topic of climate change. He believes that the warming trend of the recent century is not unusual, and he is critical of the simple model of climate systems represented by the IPCC. While Kininmonth believes that anthropogenic sources may make a small contribution to global warming, he believes the natural variability far exceeds that contribution, and this poses serious hazards for human kind.

Kininmonth headed Australia's National Climate Centre from 1986 to 1998[citation needed], with responsibilities for monitoring Australia's changing climate and advising the Australian government on the extent and severity of climate extremes. He was Australia's delegate to the WMO Commission for Climatology, was a member of Australia's delegations to the Second World Climate Conference (1990) and the subsequent intergovernmental negotiations for the Framework Convention on Climate Change (1991-1992).

Well keep it coming your omissions and hypocrisy knows no bounds it seems.
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Reply #94 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:22pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2009 at 3:11pm:
http://www.petitionproject.org/qualifications_of_signers.php

over 31,000 signatures from the US alone.



Been there done that. You have a short memory, Grendel.  I can't be bothered searching through the posts. Don't you remember the guy with the disclaimer on his website? Quite a few of the small number of climatologists on that list are sueing for defamation.
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Reply #95 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:25pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2009 at 3:19pm:
Running to cheersquad bozos like skippy is hardly doing you any good.
he doesn't even read whats written and when he infrequently does its only one side of the argument.

So BOB CARTER...  address the person not some other person.

sheesh...  basic debating skills go right out the window with you eh hypocrite.

Al Gore Mr credibility for you...  eh?  Whats' that j-curve boy.  How many mistakes in an Inconvenient lie?


Grendel - once again - learn the basics. They are not that difficult. Standard high school stuff.  Come back when you understand what a ludicrous statement this is :

"Greenhouse gases emit more radiation than they absorb and their direct impact is to cool the atmosphere."



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Reply #96 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:25pm
 
yeah yeah  so you say I guess the other 30,000 aren't eh.
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Reply #97 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:29pm
 
ROTFLMAO

just how thick are you?

Every argument you toss up i throw back in your face.

You say someone without any qualifications makes a dumb or wrong statement.  gee really.  I toss dumbo unqualified Gore (who is waaaaay less qualified than Kinnimonth actually)  back at you for making many statements all of which can be sourced and contextualised and you pretend I never did it.

ROTFLMAO at your ignorance and hypocrisy.
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Reply #98 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:31pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2009 at 2:40pm:
I'm sorry, what a pitiful attempt at a defence.

Your definition of a spoiler... is anyone who disagrees with you.

Hate to break it to you but lots of people dissent and your concensus is hanging around your ankles with the credibility of the modelling.

The wheels dear Mozza are falling off the climate catastrophe wagon.  Be prepared for an even bumpier ride.


You are losing the plot (as well as the argument) Grendel.

I defined what I consider spoilers to be, and it has nothing to do with whether I agree or disagree with them, it is whether they are real scientists, providing real data, for real consideration, and review, or whether they are just politically, or financially, motivated schills, spruiking a line of bull, to promote misinformation, and who seek to promote confusion with that misinformation.

The real scientists, who I may disagree with, are not spoilers, hence your definition of a spoiler, as merely someone I disagree with, would be completely inaccurate.

No wonder you are afraid to provide your own definitions of what you believe in, if that is the level of understanding you are displaying.
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Reply #99 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:44pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 27th, 2009 at 3:29pm:
ROTFLMAO

just how thick are you?

Every argument you toss up i throw back in your face.

You say someone without any qualifications makes a dumb or wrong statement.  gee really.  I toss dumbo unqualified Gore (who is waaaaay less qualified than Kinnimonth actually)  back at you for making many statements all of which can be sourced and contextualised and you pretend I never did it.

ROTFLMAO at your ignorance and hypocrisy.


Gore is basically a communicator. He is quoting from the research conducted by others in full consulation with them.
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Reply #100 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:49pm
 
Oh I almost forgot...  does it ever cross your mind that peopel involved in the IPCC reports have also disagreed with how their research was represented and withdrew or asked to be left iff the report due to misrepresentation of their work and position?

I guess not...  just another thing you ignore.
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Reply #101 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:51pm
 
Oh right those film-makers are really all research scientists.
(BTW Gore read a script)

Your rules state that no-one who is not a climate scientist is allowed to make comments.  Oh hypocrite.

Gore has been your best weapon at propaganda delivery and scaremongering and he's making a motza out of it...  just another point you ignore and are totally hypocritical about.
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Reply #102 - May 27th, 2009 at 3:52pm
 
hey muso...  chk chk Boom...

you've got nothing.
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Reply #103 - May 27th, 2009 at 4:29pm
 
Oh wait...  b4 I forget

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/611/UN-IPCC-Scientist-No-convincing-scientific-arguments-to-support-claim-that-increases-in-greenhouse-gases-are-harmful-to-the-climate

I have reluctantly concluded, after detailed study of the evidence presented by the IPCC, that there are no convincing scientific arguments to support the claim that increases in greenhouse gases are harmful to the climate. [...]

The IPCC “central/benchmark projections” are based on a combination pf ridiculously oversimplified models and unrealistic futures scenarios. The projections themselves conflict with the current fall in global temperatures, the absence of any warming in New Zealand, and the lack of local evidence of sea level change. [...]
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Reply #104 - May 27th, 2009 at 4:38pm
 
more dissent from people involved with the IPCC

http://www.nzcpr.com/guest147.htm

So, I am a climate realist because the available evidence indicates that climate change is predominantly, if not entirely, natural. It occurs mostly in response to variations in solar heating of the oceans, and the consequences this has for the rest of the Earth’s climate system. There is no evidence to support the hypothesis runaway catastrophic climate change due to human activities.

and...

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=10fe77b0-802a-23ad-4df1-fc38ed4f85e3

The over 700 dissenting scientists are now more than 13 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
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