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Reply #30 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:07pm
 
easel wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 1:48pm:
tallowood wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 12:46pm:
easel wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 5:00pm:
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The USSR had a policy of supplying arms to wars of liberation wherever they occur around the world. They never asked for drugs or resources in return.

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The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made.

Too well made, to be Chinese.

So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America?

And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA???



OK, i'll bite.

Why?


Chinese AK's were well made, often with Russian equipment given to China. A lot of the AK's were crap during the war. They weren't Chinese or Russian made. They were reverse engineered in America, and were crap. They looked the same but the manufacturing was different as were materials. America was just in the market for money.

The AK-47 was a superior weapon to the weapons issued to US forces.

The AK-47 would shoot through trees, whereas the m16 wouldn't, due to ammunition. Much better weapon. Cheaper too.

The sadistic Americans also design their small arms to wound not kill.


USSR asked for land for its military bases instead. Does Cam Ranh Bay and Lourdes ring the bell?

AK47 made in China were crap because soviets never gave them the alloy formula for barrel metal as they had their own little war with China over Chinese territorial demands and had shot quiet few Chinese with their AKs while Chinese AKs were staffed after short but furious use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenbao_Island
http://www.russiatoday.ru/Politics/2009-03-12/A_small_war_that_mattered___40_years_since_the_Damansky_Island_tragedy_.html



Internet tells me that Cam Ranh Bay became a Soviet base after the war, and that it was only on a 25 year lease, which didn't even last that long.

Russia was providing material to the North Vietnamese who then got paranoid and decided to not work with them, taking Chicom supplies.

A lot of the weaponry was American made.

The Americans also had a policy of infiltrating arms caches and putting HE ammunition in brass loaded in to magazines. This would cause the whole weapon to explode when the HE ammunition was encountered, giving the impression to NVA/VC forces that the Chicom weapons were crap, when in fact they were sabotaged.

Are you familiar with the Gulf of Tonkin incident? The Americans lied in order to get involved in the war.



Yes, that's what broke soviets at the end, they were giving to much credit.

As for accidents with AK ammo was more problem then the rifle itself, up to 40% of it used to go bad in high humidity or if immersed in water even for short periods of time. The worth think powder still was working but not enough to push a bullet through the barrel all the way and in fully automatic mode it caused to explode in user's face. That was due to poor quality control during mass production.



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Reply #31 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:30pm
 
easel wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 2:17pm:
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They have 9mm pistols at the airport. They have a heavier weapons team that can be deployed but they don't live at the airport.

The chief executive of the airport presumably would not have asked for auto weapons if they already had them.


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Find out what a false flag is. They have more than just 9mm pistols.


I know what 'false flag' is, its the rubbish that airheads like Rosie O'Donnell likes to go on about, ITS THE GULF OF TONKIN PEOPLE!!! If you are saying they do have automatic weapons at the airport and hide them, it's pretty unlikely that the Chief Executive of the Airport, would publicly ask that they get automatic weapons.

I am not saying the Feds dont have automatic weapons, They train down at Malabar with them. But they do not, have not, had them at the Airport.

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I've never asked. It would not be hard to find out, they usually tell us.


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They tell you what they want you to know.


But you are hooked up? There isn't any evidence to support your position.

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Well that doesn't make a lot of sense if there are muslims who head certain outlaw motorcycle gangs, and are in them.


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I was told Hells Angels and Commanchero's were infiltrated reasonably by Muslims,


The Rebels, Notorious are two others I can think of. How many do you want?
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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.
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Reply #32 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:31pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 2:52pm:
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Where are you getting your information? I remember a recent post where you were asking questions about Arab influence in Sydney criminal circles. I think you are a mushroom, fed on sh*t and kept in the dark.

Muslims haven't got control of anything. They are vastly outnumbered by non-Muslims. You can be Arab without being Muslim.


You're the only idiot talking about Muslims and outlaw gangs.  I said Arabs of all persuasions and questioned whether there were even Muslims in these gangs.  Put your reading glasses on.


No when this whole thing flared up you were asking about Lebanese gangs and how you thought they were Christians. Anyway, I don't have reading glasses. I am very slightly myopic.

@tallowood

I think that would be the exception rather than the rule. Americans were sabotaging weapons though.

I also find it hard to believe that the ammunition would allow water in. The bullet is usually very tight against the brass. Primers are pretty tight also.

Americans were sabotaging weapons though and providing crap with false markings on them.
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Reply #33 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:41pm
 
Calanen wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 4:30pm:
I know what 'false flag' is, its the rubbish that airheads like Rosie O'Donnell likes to go on about, ITS THE GULF OF TONKIN PEOPLE!!! If you are saying they do have automatic weapons at the airport and hide them, it's pretty unlikely that the Chief Executive of the Airport, would publicly ask that they get automatic weapons.


Tonkin is proven as a false flag operation. You really think cops don't know how to influence behaviour of their targets?  Roll Eyes Solicitors are supposed to be smart! Then again, the writing style is not like that of the Calanen I recall conversing with.

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I am not saying the Feds dont have automatic weapons, They train down at Malabar with them. But they do not, have not, had them at the Airport.


Funny they train under the public eye. You think they don't have their own ranges? You have no idea who have trained them or what equipment they have. Lawyers are supposed to be smart. This doesn't seem like Calanen. You know what false flags are right?

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But you are hooked up? There isn't any evidence to support your position.


Yes there is. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Like I wrote, you don't know who they are linked with, you also don't know where they are getting their training, nor do you know what kind of equipment they have.

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The Rebels, Notorious are two others I can think of. How many do you want?


What's your definition of infiltrated? Muslims severely outnumbered by those who hate them? Oh in that case they really have infiltrated!  Grin

All it takes is a few targeted killings and mass defections to a new organisation, and then the Aussies will have no more problems from the muslims.

Short of cash?

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Meanwhile, flamboyant Comancheros boss Mick Hawi has spent another night in custody after being charged on Monday with affray in relation to the Sydney Airport brawl. Mr Hawi, 28, who is said to have a $100,000 bounty on his head, yesterday had a bail application delayed again after new information was given to Sydney's Central Local Court.


He's a muslim right, and bikie gang leader? People are trying to have him killed. Isn't his real name Mahmoud? Yeah, looks like Aussies have had enough of the Muslims.

You should be happy Calanen! Dream come true?
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Reply #34 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 7:44pm
 
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He's a muslim right, and bikie gang leader? People are trying to have him killed. Isn't his real name Mahmoud? Yeah, looks like Aussies have had enough of the Muslims.

You should be happy Calanen! Dream come true?


Do you think I'm happy we've imported a few hundred thousand people that subscribe to a supremacist totalitarian ideology that wants to destroy our society through religious warfare? Goddamit I wish it hadn't happened. But we've done it now, so we'll deal with it.
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Reply #35 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:09pm
 
You used to write about and encourage making violent stands against these people.

Is that how you still think it should be dealt with? Mass killings of Muslims? Surely there is a better way...
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Reply #36 - Apr 9th, 2009 at 9:34pm
 
easel wrote on Apr 9th, 2009 at 8:09pm:
You used to write about and encourage making violent stands against these people.

Is that how you still think it should be dealt with? Mass killings of Muslims? Surely there is a better way...


I don't think I did.

I certainly would violently confront jihad wherever it was.

I would eliminate muslim immigration. And also, EVERY demand for some special accommodation, treatment, law change for muslims would be a resounding NO!.

Tough government that can contain the Islamic political threat is what is needed. We have weak government, a weak press and a weak people ruled by a weak limp wristed philosophy of standing for nothing, believing in nothing, appeasement, weakness, compromise, 'tolerance' of all manner of evil. Just pathetic. No wonder the muslims laugh at us.

What we need is strong action, strong government, a strong philosophy, a strong people - that know what they believe in and make no apologies for it. The muslims certainly don't make any apologies for their hateful intolerant beliefs - and we should make no apologies for seeking to oppose them.

Not one inch further - a culture of tolerance should be turned into one of zero tolerance with the catch-cry of - 'Enough!'. If Sharia is your thing, move to Saudi Arabia. If Jihad is your thing, move to afghanistan and join the Taliban. If Abu Rashid had any gonads that's what he would do instead of mouthing off over here. He doesn't of course, so he'll just say how great they are in the safety of the country where freedom and liberty is provided by the society he despises.
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