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Apr 4th, 2009 at 8:11pm
 
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During the 1980s, when Russian troops occupied Afghanistan, the USA's Central Intelligence Agency was sending arms and war material to the Afghani Mujahideen. The CIA also provided military training and logistical support to the Afghani Mujahideen. US arms dealers, CIA agents, and covert US military Special Operations troops were deeply involved in assisting the Afghan resistance to Russian occupation. The Stinger shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles which the USA gave to the Mujahideen enabled the Mujahideen to turn the tide of battle and to eventually defeat and expel the Russian Army from Afghanistan.


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  Afghanistan is a major opium-growing center, and during the Russian/Afghan conflict, heroin trafficking out of Afghanistan became a major enterprise for the CIA, which used its own fleet of difficult-to- trace aircraft to ship the drug into Europe. When I was in New Delhi in 1980, I met young Afghans who were eager to sell heroin and AK-47 automatic assault rifles to almost anyone, including random tourists.


http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/01-12-2008/106767-al_qaeda-0

It's Air America. The USA is trying to get their hands on the drugs. Oil, tobacco, pharma and guns aren't enough. They want drugs for their global domination bullshit too.

bugger America.
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Reply #1 - Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:08pm
 

so us helped afghanistan repel russia when they were swarming into other countries ?

And afghans now sell drugs and arms to anyone and everyone.

So, afghans are bad.
thanks for that easel
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Reply #2 - Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:13pm
 
No, Al-Qaeda are bad you xenophobe.

Did you know that the USA used to arm the Vietcong and other communist terrorists during the Cold War and then go and fight them?

It was under CIA operational codename Forecourt/Courtfour.

That's ultra top secret. You'll probably never read about that publicly acknowledged anywhere.

The US military and intelligence networks are run by evil people in the pursuit of corporate greed, not freedom.
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Reply #3 - Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:20pm
 

in my books, people who smuggle drugs and arms are bad.

so you know "ultra top secret" military info !!!!!!


sounds like you have a hate list for the US and don't take a balanced view.

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Reply #4 - Apr 4th, 2009 at 11:31pm
 
I take a balanced view.

I have insider information you could only dream of.

If people who smuggle arms and drugs are bad, by your own admission, the USA is bad.
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Reply #5 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 8:53am
 
Hmm. Not likely. The CIA did try to get Vietcong to defect. That may have led to the transfer of money:

http://www.foia.cia.gov/browse_docs.asp?doc_no=0000499930

And certainly the ARVN were often corrupt and sold weapons to the Vietcong and NVA. But the CIA financing the Viet Cong? Can't say I'm sold on that idea.
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Reply #6 - Apr 5th, 2009 at 6:46pm
 

easel - hahha, you have inder info I could only dream of ??
How do you know what I dream of?

By posing anywhere your IP and ID is known to anyone who wants to know
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Reply #7 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:42pm
 
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's Air America. The USA is trying to get their hands on the drugs. Oil, tobacco, pharma and guns aren't enough. They want drugs for their global domination bullshit too.

bugger America.


Totally ignorant, inane and stupid statement.
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Reply #8 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:43pm
 
The CIA have and did supply arms to the 'enemy' in South East Asia. Their rationale was 'everyone else is doing it'. They still continue to do things like that to this day. It's about $$$.

You will hear reports of the AK-47's in the Vietnam war and surrounding countries during that time of being crap inferior articles thanks to the Chinese.

That's not true. Chinese AK-47's were well made.

They were made somewhere else.

Perhaps America?

Sprint, I know that posting anywhere my IP is available. I also know that I am using wireless internet from a company I have never worked for.
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Reply #9 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:45pm
 
Grendel you are wrong.
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Reply #10 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:59pm
 
Easel, what you are saying is just nuts on so many levels, and you are saying it without a shred of evidence.

I know its trendy to do revisionist history now, say FDR really was a plant of the Third Reich and the Kaiser actually  was a disgruntled american candidate who ran for the United States Senate and then had plastic surgery, going back to Germany to start the First Wold War - but Occams Razor is the best solution to these problems.

The CIA fought a war for the Americans, and eventually, it lost because it went on for longer than a democracy could put up with. That's all.
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Reply #11 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 3:14pm
 
The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made.

Too well made, to be Chinese.

So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America?

And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA???



OK, i'll bite.

Why?


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Reply #12 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 5:00pm
 
Calanen wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:59pm:
Easel, what you are saying is just nuts on so many levels, and you are saying it without a shred of evidence.

I know its trendy to do revisionist history now, say FDR really was a plant of the Third Reich and the Kaiser actually  was a disgruntled american candidate who ran for the United States Senate and then had plastic surgery, going back to Germany to start the First Wold War - but Occams Razor is the best solution to these problems.

The CIA fought a war for the Americans, and eventually, it lost because it went on for longer than a democracy could put up with. That's all.


It was a war about money, as they usually are. America does not get involved in wars that are genuinely about freedom, it always has economic undertones.

The CIA were arming the 'bad guys' in Cambodia also, before the Vietnam war even officially started under codename Forecourt/Caughtfour. It is about money.

You don't believe something as easy to believe as that because it isn't yet declassified? What about Air America? With the CIA working with bringing heroin to the west on a wide scale? What about the CIA working with Nazi scientists after WW2 conducting wide scale experiments on unwitting human subjects? You believe that because it is declassified right? But them selling guns to the 'enemy' you find hard to believe?  Shocked

If it was about freedom, why were small weak countries attacked by the USA in Asia and South America, and members of 'Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance' were left alone? It was never about that.

The USSR had a policy of supplying arms to wars of liberation wherever they occur around the world. They never asked for drugs or resources in return.

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The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made.

Too well made, to be Chinese.

So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America?

And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA???



OK, i'll bite.

Why?


Chinese AK's were well made, often with Russian equipment given to China. A lot of the AK's were crap during the war. They weren't Chinese or Russian made. They were reverse engineered in America, and were crap. They looked the same but the manufacturing was different as were materials. America was just in the market for money.

The AK-47 was a superior weapon to the weapons issued to US forces.

The AK-47 would shoot through trees, whereas the m16 wouldn't, due to ammunition. Much better weapon. Cheaper too.

The sadistic Americans also design their small arms to wound not kill.

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Reply #13 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 7:32pm
 
easel wrote on Apr 4th, 2009 at 8:11pm:
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http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/01-12-2008/106767-al_qaeda-0

It's Air America. The USA is trying to get their hands on the drugs. Oil, tobacco, pharma and guns aren't enough. They want drugs for their global domination bullshit too.

bugger America.



You are getting your bearings from an oline tabloid called, in the great russki doublespeak tradition,  Truth, Pravda. Written by the 'associates' of the old commie Pravda. What an ass.


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Reply #14 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 9:21pm
 
ah no easel...  I'm not wrong.
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