Go and live in Iran Abu.
Your silly ideas are not wanted here.
I don't mind religion except when people take it so far that they
want to cane, torture & kill others in it's name.

That's because trying to implement shari'ah punishments in a Western society would just be ridiculous. You're the only loon around here suggesting that should/would/could occur.

How can you have capital punishment for adultery for instance, when there's pornography splashed all over the place and kids are taught from a young age to be promiscuous?

Shari'ah is a complete system, which includes guidelines for producing a moral and chaste society to begin with, not just the punishments that propagandists such as yourself always harp on about.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 12^th, 2010 at 10:16am:



The point is that Muslims do not impose sharia on themselves nor do they accept western law as being applicable to them. They are parasitic.

tell  us all about this murderous islamic abu ??

Quote:


http://www.couriermail.com.au/abu-bakar-bashir-committed-for-trial-on-terror-cha...

And that has what to do with Islam sprint?

Honeslty, if a man is going to let his daughter go out acting and displaying herself etc. then it's quite clear he's not basing his dislike for her actions on Islam.

So what we have here is a man who dealt with his daughter unIslamically from day one, and then threatened to kill her (itself unIslamic too), yet you somehow think this is related to Islam? Because he's from a Muslim background.

Good thinking sprinty.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2010 at 10:30am:



WHatever wrong a Muslim does is never because of his adherence to islam.

ANything opprobrious a non-muslims does - it is always because of his non-adherence to Islam, in particular, because of his addherence to Judaism or Christianity or atheism.

You are living, daily  proof of Islam's intellectual decline over the last millenium.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2010 at 10:30am:


Honestly, .....here again, Abu is mis-representing ISLAM, to those non-moslems who may not know any better.


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There is a very clear distinction between what ISLAMIC law allows, and what Australian secular law allows.

ISLAMIC law justifies the murder of wives and children [and grandchildren] [under certain circumstances, e.g. apostasy].
ISLAMIC law specifically gives moslem men, the right to kill their children [and grandchildren].
[n.b. i can prove this claim, with specific murder examples, and authentic ISLAMIC texts, justifying such murder of their children.]

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Whereas, Australian secular law [based upon Judaeo-Christian law] does not justify the murder of wives and children.

Australian secular law protects all human beings equally.

Whereas, ISLAMIC law DOES NOT protect all human beings equally.

Sharia law establishes a legal apartheid, between moslems and non-moslems.
[I can provide evidence to support that claim].

THE PROBLEM WITH AUSTRALIAN SECULAR LAW...
The fact that Australian secular law is not respected and enforced, is not the fault of our laws.
It is the fault of our political [i.e. our community] leaders!
The high rate of domestic violence, drunkenness, and the abuse of women and children within Australia is because,
...THE PERPETRATORS OF THESE CRIMES ARE NOT PUNISHED SEVERELY ENOUGH.
i.e.
The law is not 'enforced' with adequate punishment against the perpetrators of these crimes.

Above i said,
"ISLAMIC law gives moslem men, the right to kill their children [and grandchildren]."

cited here, in this story;

"British girl kidnapped by Saudi father: "I told [the police] he was keeping me there against my will and all they said was, 'He's your father, if he wants he can kill you'."
Indeed, traditional Islamic law does not prescribe retaliation against a parent for killing his or her child. For example: "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2)." "
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/british-girl-kidnapped-by-saudi-father-i-told-...


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To BE a moslem, a moslem must endorse and strictly follow what the Koran and Hadith teach.
If a 'moslem' does not HATE unbelievers [and those who reject ISLAM], he/she, is not considered a moslem.

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1


THINGS WHICH, TO BE A MOSLEM, A MOSLEM MUST EMBRACE...
1/ The love of fellow moslems.
2/ Deceit towards, hatred of, and violence against non-moslems [who reject ISLAM], and, moslem apostates.

Google,
muslim honour killings uk

Though the term 'honour killing' is in 'popular' use in the MSM [media], it is a misnomer.

Every 'honour killing' is justified by moslem perpetrators, as the 'righteous' killing of an 'apostate'/rebel.

ISLAMIC law texts declare, moslems can 'lawfully' kill 'unbelievers' [who reject ISLAM], and, apostates.
I provide below, a few examples from ISLAMIC texts.

The Hadith,
"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah,...fight ye against the ['unbelievers']..."
Koran 4.76

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

i.e. according to ISLAMIC doctrine, any moslem who makes sincere friendships with 'unbelievers',
1/ makes himself an unbeliever,
2/ becomes an 'apostate'/rebel, and
3/ is therefore worthy of death, at the hand of good moslems.




A Study in Muslim Doctrine
"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."
http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

Google,
smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2010 at 12:28pm:



Unreflective religious certainty is for idiots.
Yet for Muslims, it is mandatory.

It's clicked.