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Whilst some of them might be mentally unstable, I think a lot of them are not. They're purely criminals who act out of jealousy, rage and suspicion. They are culpable and should be punished severely for their criminal acts.

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In my opinion any existence of it at all amongst Muslims is disturbing, and Muslims everywhere should be working to educate people about it.

This is a human problem, and it knows no religious bounds. Even legislatively, it is condoned or at least responsibility is diminished for it in several countries around the world, most  of them are Judaeo-Christian countries.

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6 predominantly Judaeo-Christian states, and 5 predominantly Muslim states.

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3 predominantly Judaeo-Christian states, and 1 predominantly Muslim state.

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Last time I checked, Brazil was a very Christian country, perhaps it's all the Muslim immigrants that were doing it?

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There's more than a handful, you're delusion, or blissfully ignorant. 800 cases in 1 year in 1 Christian country alone is a little more than a handful.

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You know nothing about what I do or don't do in my community. Again you speak from nothing but pure ignorance. Regardless, even if no Muslim ever worked against it (plenty do) that does not mean that Islam condones it. Islamic doctrine is not decided by the backwards tribal practises of ignorants. In Pakistan they also rape women in retaliation for a perceived 'attack on their honour', do you also claim this is from Islam?

Really I cannot accept you're a lawyer, your arguments are just pathetic. They don't contain a mustard's seed of evidence. All based on pure speculation and baseless inference.

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There are no Islamic countries in existence, so this argument is pretty pointless. However, there is plenty of activity by Islamic organisations to educate people about this crime and to work to end it's practise amongst Muslims.

Islamic awareness site about honour killing
Fatwa from Islamonline
Islamic article on honour killings
Fatwa from islam-qa

Tell me, how many Christian based groups do you know of who are actively trying to educate Christians about the honour killings that many of their adherents commit? When was the last time any Australian Christians engaged in any activity to educate Brazilian Christians about the evil action which dogs their society?

Has the Catholic leadership of Australia said anything about honour killing? After all, his specific sect of Christianity is responsible for a lot of it.

My guess is you'd have no idea, nor are you interested. Your interest is only in denigrating and slandering Islam, for things which it CLEARLY does not prescribe.

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As we saw above, more Judaeo-Christian states have such laws.

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Actually that sounds more like your exact response to all my threads I've ever started about Christianity, Israel or the West. You never address them, you just engage in your favourite tu quoque.

I have never stated Muslims don't carry out honour killings, I have merely stated they have nothing to do with Islamic doctrine. And you know you clearly failed to prove they do. As a lawyer, you're a joke.

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As a human being, you're a joke.

I'm not sure why you and Lestat think you are the arbiters of my career or commercial success. Whatever you say on here, or, in fact anywhere about me (who you cannot find and cannot identify) has no impact on my life, my earnings or my ability.

It's interesting that you equated what 'Islam' is doing with honor killings with what you personally Abu Rashid is doing. Kind of egocentric. You perhaps see yourself as the Modern Day Caliph.

I do not expect you to ever agree with anything I say or do, or to ever agree with me about anything. It would be like the Home Office in London expecting to write letters to the Nazis and receive favourable replies during world war II. You are the enemy of this society, you are the enemy of freedom and the torch bearer for darkness, oppression and dictatorship.

Freedom will win in the end. Whether Allah the Moon God likes it or not.

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That's quite ironic, especially given that most of the dictatorships that exist in the Islamic world are propped up to the tune of billions of dollars a year in aid from the West. People like Saddam were installed, propped up and armed by the West... Yet Muslims who oppose this are "torch bearers of dictatorship"??? Someone surely is benefitting from dictatorship, but it certainly isn't Muslims.

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He's gotta remain consistent with the rest of his mixed up ideas.

Calanen wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2009 at 3:48pm:

Or 'bearing a torch' for 'darkness'.

Calanen wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2009 at 5:16pm:

I'm guessing his being a 'torch bearer' was your metaphor for being an advocate and 'darkness' was your metaphor for evil. However, bearing a torch would bring light to darkness... which I doubt was your intended meaning... unless you really meant something like 'he brings light to those in the dark'.

Calanen wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2009 at 5:31pm:

The fact that a mixed metaphor may be effective (particlarly when the writer is trying to be blatantly ironic - as in your very good example of an effective mixed metaphor) doesn't mean it's not a mixed metaphor. But it takes skill to mix metaphors to good effect.

He's a sunni. Not that it matters. Both sets of jurisprudence say we have to die or live as slaves under their rule.