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Plan to Carry out A Sunna Goes Awry
Mar 13th, 2009 at 12:42pm
 
PLAN TO CARRY OUT A SUNNA GONE AWRY

The Humiliation Continues

The following is a fictitious and satirical look at the way in which one of the faithful at the East London mosque may have convinced them to be part of a rape of an infidel and cover up. It is not a transcript of actual events.  The rape itself and the coverup, regrettably actually happened.

By Ayesha Ahmed

During a question answer session in East London Mosque, preacher Imam Abdul Makin Khalisadar was asked by a Niqabi muslima about a recent fatwa from a well known Imam ..

Naqabi Woman: “One eyed hooked Imam Hamza Mesri says muslims can kill British infidels and have sex with their wives and daughters, Do you agree with him”

Imam: “It is not what Imam Hamza said nor is there a question of my agreeing with him or not. It is in Quran thus those are Allah’s orders”.

N.W. “But why would Allah tell muslims to kill and rape innocent non muslims”.

Imam: “Because Non muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet. If you don’t believe me here is the legal authority, the top muslim lawyer of Britain, Anjem Choudhary”



N.W. “ But our Prophet was sent as a mercy for all the humanity ; he never hurt any body in his life”

Imam: “Yes he never hurt a muslim in his life. But Allah said non- muslim are lowest beasts and worst creatures in ayas 8.22,8.55,95.5 and 98.6 and muslim are ordered to kill them.

N.W.:” But did prophet approve of killing them and raping their wives”?

Imam: “ Yes he did. He not only approved of such acts, he and his sahabas practiced it regularly under Allah’s orders. He was helpless in it...If you don’t believe me , you have to believe sahih hadiths. I will quote you two hadiths about his typical day after a raid. These hadiths are about the raid on jewish village Khaibar whose chief was Kinana who had gorgeous 17 year old wife Safia. Prophet tortured and beheaded Kinana in front of Safia and raped her all night afterwards".

Sahih Bukhari, volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

Narrated Anas:

"Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their men killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet " (prophet took her away from him after giving Dahya two women and five men in exchange for Safia, Ref, Sahih Muslim Bk8 No.3328) .

   Sirat e Rasulullah, Ibn Hisham, page 766

   “Safiyah was captured in the Khaibar raid and was claimed by the apostle as his share of booty.. She was then seventeen. She was groomed and made-up for the Prophet by Umm Sulaim, the mother of Anas ibn Malik. They spent the night there. In the early dawn, the Prophet suspected some movement near the tent) . He went out to enquire and saw Abu Ayyub.. He asked him what he was doing near his tent.He replied: "I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, and till recently she was an unbeliever. I was really afraid for you on her account and was guarding you". The Prophet prayed for Abu Ayyub al-Ansari "

The description of the steamy all night action between the 62 year old Prophet and teenage Safia , left the niqabi woman very depressed and the male audience very horny . Imam himself got excited and started thinking about the possibility of killing an infidel and raping his wife,. who knows Allah could reward him with paradise for following in the footsteps of his most beloved apostle ..

Imam Abdul after a lot of thinking and contemplating figured out killing is too risky in England. He could end up behind bars for life. Rape is desirable, less risky and more fun. His congregation muslim members could help him in this Islamic duty by providing an alibi that he was preaching in the mosque at the time of the rape, in case he was apprehended.. He talked to them about this favour.. Seven of them agreed to testify for him provided Imam will do the same for them if they got caught in their rape jihad..

The Imam had been lusting for a while on a good looking kafira , who lived alone in the neighbourhood.. Late one night he entered her apartment, captured her at a knife point and brutally raped her. When leaving he also grabbed her expensive computer phone as booty to complete the sunna (8.1).

The woman had seen this weird looking bearded pot bellied Imam walking in and out of the neighbourhood mosque. She reported him to the police and the Imam was nabbed.. As promised the seven namazis testified for him and provided the alibi that Imam was preaching at the time of rape. Alas his DNA contradicted their testimony. He and his seven namazi friends were all sentenced to prison terms.

However their burqa clad wives, who were also present in the court, couldn’t believe this miscarriage of justice. They yelled abuse at the judge for punishing their husbands for practising their religion . They asked why was an act approved by Quran and practiced by holy prophet is punishable in a country which claims freedom of religion? It was clearly a discrimination against muslims and definitely an islamophobia. They realized how important it is for muslim to implement sharia in England like the learned Archbishop had suggested..

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/plan_to_carry_out_sunna.shtml
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Reply #1 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 12:51pm
 
But Imam Abdul had no regrets. For the first time he had a white woman and in addition he gained a lot of sawab for following in the footsteps of his beloved prophet..

The real losers were the pious namazis who neither could enjoy a kafira nor could gain any sawab but ended up in the slammer anyways (khaya piya kuch nahin,glass tora ,barana)..

Here is the news story from British newspaper “The Sun”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:East_London_Mosque_Front_View.jpg

Mosque ... seven members lied

Published: 18 Mar 2008

A Muslim leader who claimed he was preaching at a mosque when he was really carrying out a brutal rape was jailed for ten years yesterday.

Abdul Mukin Khalisadar held a knife to his victim’s throat as he attacked her in her home.

He persuaded seven men to back up his story that he had been in the mosque at the time.

Khalisadar later admitted raping the 27-year-old.

He claimed a substance he took to help with fasting during Ramadan had made him “hyper”.

The preacher forced his way into her home as she got back from a night out, the court was told.

He threatened to kill her — even after she claimed to be pregnant with twins to put him off, prosecutor Simon Carr said.

Khalisadar also stole a mobile from the house in Whitechapel, East London.

He was caught by DNA .

Judge Timothy King blasted his “hypocrisy”.

Imam got 7½ years for rape and 2½ for conspiring to pervert justice.

Seven members of East London Mosque admitted perverting justice and got 12 months each.

Burka-clad women in the public gallery yelled abuse at the judge — and one screamed that the victim was a prostitute.

Moral of the story: Momins should only rape in Sharia country as it is risk free there. Sharia law requires four male witnesses to prove a rape.
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Reply #2 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 12:55pm
 
This event was referred to before. What is important is not that persons were committing crimes, it was WHY they were committing these crimes.

These people at a local mosque, participated in covering up the rape of an infidel woman, because they believed that their religion required them to do so. Indeed there is a long history and tradition of rape in Islam as part of the rightful prize for muslims involved in a jihad.

That's a far different thing from a person of any particular religion committing a crime - the motive was provided by religion, the actors to conceal the crime were sourced from the local church community. The justification for the crime was religious, and even at the court, the wives of the husbands convicted called the victim a whore and shouted that this was religious discrimination.
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Reply #3 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 1:10pm
 
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"....Imam: “Because Non muslims are never innocent...."



More inadvertent TRUTH [of ISLAMIC opinion about the Kuffar] on display from muslims.


Good one Calanen !!       Grin





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #4 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 1:45pm
 

calanen - want a bet that abu or any other muslim will not comment here ??

this is why at times i lose my cool.
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Reply #5 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 2:22pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 13th, 2009 at 1:45pm:
calanen - want a bet that abu or any other muslim will not comment here ??

this is why at times i lose my cool.








But, but, sprint,
.....Abdul Mukin Khalisadar [in thread above], was not a
real
muslim!
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sprint,

Don't ya know?

......muslims are 'perfected' by practising ISLAM.           Grin       Grin       Grin
/sarc off


"Ye [muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110




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Reply #6 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 3:53pm
 
That story just looked like utter fabrication to me. Especially things like using the name "Imam Hamza", there is no such person as "Imam Hamza" (not in this context anyway), and any actual Muslim would know that his name is Imam ABU Hamza, Hamza is not his last name, it's his son's name, and leaving out the ABU (meaning 'father of') would never be done by a Muslim as it just completely messes up his name.

Upon digging a little deeper, and finding the original source of this whimsical fabrication, we find that the authors admit it is indeed a fabrication:

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Editor Note:

The question / answer session is a satirical and fictional account based on Quranic verses and statements of Muslims who unfortunately take some hateful teachings of the Quran literally. Some readers have been mistaking it as a genuine conversation. Also according to East London Mosque Abdul Makin was never employed by them although he and his fellow convicted perverters of justice did lie about being at the Mosque at the time listening to one of Abdul's speeches there. Islam does in fact have the teaching of the killing of non-Muslims and taking their women as war booty to be enjoyed. In the following video at 2:28 the Muslim protester makes this teaching clear: Lets invade Denmark and 'take their women as war booty'...at 2:47 another Muslim calls out 'take lessons of the jews of khaibar" whose fate is mentioned below.


Original article on Islam watch

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Humiliation is on you Calanen, again posting more fabrications.
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Reply #7 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 3:58pm
 

Good on you for posting here abu.

So are the references given bona fide ??
Sahih Bukhari, volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:
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Reply #8 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 4:05pm
 
I didnt think anyone would think it was an actual lesson at the mosque, the first few lines refers to their hero hook hand Hamza in a derogatory fashion. I just found it amusing. Had I thought anyone was going to be confused, I would have put a by-line in it.

Abu often gets confused, poor petal. I shall remind myself of this next time.

But what was real, was arranging for the rape and the cover up using the faithful at the local mosque.
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Reply #9 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 4:10pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 13th, 2009 at 1:10pm:
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"....Imam: “Because Non muslims are never innocent...."



More inadvertent TRUTH [of ISLAMIC opinion about the Kuffar] on display from muslims.


Good one Calanen !!       Grin



Watch the TV episdoe on youtube. Oh I forgot you are on dialup in a phone booth with a string and tin cans or something.
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Reply #10 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 4:15pm
 
sprint,

The hadith you asked about reads like this:

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Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

    Narrated Anas:

    The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet . The Prophet made her manumission as her 'Mahr'.


Nothing about rape, in fact it clearly states he freed (manumitted) her and then married her (mahr is Arabic for marriage dowry).
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Reply #11 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 4:17pm
 
Calanen, you quite clearly posted it as a serious article otherwise you would've put some kind of disclaimer or editor's note, as the original publishers did. As for the news article about a Muslim who got charged with rape, you've already posted it before in the Islam forum (I'm pretty sure it was you), are you recycling your material already?
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Reply #12 - Mar 13th, 2009 at 4:18pm
 

Abu - thanks for that.

calanen - yep, that guy in the clip does not condemn terrorism.
He should therefore be deported or jailed as a threat to society.


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Reply #13 - Mar 15th, 2009 at 9:50am
 
Calanen wrote on Mar 13th, 2009 at 4:10pm:
Yadda wrote on Mar 13th, 2009 at 1:10pm:
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"....Imam: “Because Non muslims are never innocent...."



More inadvertent TRUTH [of ISLAMIC opinion about the Kuffar] on display from muslims.


Good one Calanen !!       Grin



Watch the TV episdoe on youtube.
Oh I forgot you are on dialup in a phone booth with a string and tin cans or something.



LOL

Yes, my net connection is almost that bad!

A very racy 24 kb/s today!!!!








I did D/L that YT presentation....

Killing of Non-Muslims is Legitimate
http://youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

This is one i D/L'd already, some time ago.

It is still very revealing, of true, 'default' muslim opinion of those kind and accommodating ppl, of their host nations [i.e. dupes].

i.e.
"ISLAM / muslims good,
....non-muslims, spit! spit!"




Dictionary,
dupe = =
· v. deceive; trick.
· n. a victim of deception.




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