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Reply #90 - Mar 14^th, 2009 at 3:44pm

The other matter to note, is while it is ALWAYS someone else's fault, and someone always provoked it, and it was always the result of religious persecution and discrimination and islamaphobia:

- that everywhere that Islam is, it is fighting with it's neighbours, killing people and blowing people up.

Why is that? The common denomination is Islam.

If someone tells you that they cannot make friends because everyone picks on them all the time and they have to get into violent fights just to defend themselves, wouldn't you be a little suspicious? Wouldn't you say - hey maybe it's you!

And make no mistake, it is Islam. Islam is doing its very best to lull the West into a false sense of security to sucker punch it when its not looking. Abu's lies and obfuscation is just part of a legion of followers on youtube, liveleak, and blogs pushing the Islamic line. Worse still is how many people swallow this bs.

Education is the key. Once the general public knows what Islam really is (and Robert Spencer and Daniel Pipes have done a tremendous job in this regard) they will not want any part of this violent religious fascism in their communities or their lives. Let it stay far away to kill others, and be banished from these shores to save our own lives and culture from jihad, roadside bombs and killing.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: UK Muslims Stampede through UK Army Parade Reply #91 - Mar 14^th, 2009 at 7:44pm christians battle with muslims. jews battle with muslims. hindus battle with muslims buddhists battle with muslims athiests battlke with muslims agnostics battle with muslims. Who is the common demoninator ????
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: UK Muslims Stampede through UK Army Parade Reply #92 - Mar 14^th, 2009 at 7:57pm Islam's bloody borders - Samuel Huntington's spot-on distillation of history first formulated in his The Clash of Civilisations? (note the quesrtion mark). http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/48950/samuel-p-huntington/the-clash-of-ci...
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Reply #93 - Mar 14^th, 2009 at 9:14pm

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that everywhere that Islam is, it is fighting with it's neighbours, killing people and blowing people up.

Actually, there's plenty of Muslim countries that have no border disputes. And most of them that do relate to the colonialist era, this is a well known fact. When you draw arbitrary lines on maps, displace massive groups of people and replace them with others not even from the region, this tends to cause a lot of friction.

Says more about British meddling than it does about Islam.

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Reply #95 - Mar 14^th, 2009 at 9:31pm

abu - do you mean that many muslim countries do not have disputes with other muslims countries who share a boundary ??
your precious evasive answers makes me further question you

Who cares about those ones anyway, they are not an issue .

the less muslims, the less problems we have.
says more about your ways than ours.

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Reply #96 - Mar 15^th, 2009 at 10:35am

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 13^th, 2009 at 9:28pm:

Firstly, I never claimed Islam is apolitical, it is most definitely political. No religion can really be apolitical, because politics is exactly what religion is about. Politics is the managing of the affairs of the people, and so is religion.

Secondly, you've still not shown

why the alliance of a single post-Caliphate "mufti" means that Islam, wholesale, supposedly had good relations with the Nazis.

Dictionary,
mufti = = a Muslim legal expert who is empowered to give rulings on religious matters.

ISLAM is the ummah, i.e. one ppl, the ummah is the muslim community worldwide.

If this mufti was not speaking and acting with the authority, and sanction of his faith, he would have been declared Takfir, by the ummah.

If this person had done anything which was considered un-ISLAMIC, he would have been declared Takfir, by the ummah.

Takfir == declared apostate, a person who can be legally killed by muslims.

Similar in consequence to being declared 'Outlaw', in Old English Law.

Google..... wiki Takfir apostasy

The fact that this mufti was lauded by the ummah, gives the lie to any suggestion, that this mufti did not legitimately represent the ummah, in his words and actions.

Dictionary,
laudable = = deserving praise and commendation.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #98 - Mar 15^th, 2009 at 11:16am

Calanen wrote on Mar 14^th, 2009 at 3:44pm:

.....And make no mistake, it is Islam. Islam is doing its very best to lull the West into a false sense of security to sucker punch it when its not looking. Abu's lies and obfuscation is just part of a legion of followers on youtube, liveleak, and blogs pushing the Islamic line. Worse still is how many people swallow this bs.

Education is the key.

Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.

Alaskan
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023681.php#c602782

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......Once the general public knows what Islam really is (and Robert Spencer and Daniel Pipes have done a tremendous job in this regard) they will not want any part of this violent religious fascism in their communities or their lives. Let it stay far away to kill others, and be banished from these shores to save our own lives and culture
from jihad, roadside bombs and killing.

The solution to the 'problem' which ISLAM brings into our midst [lies, deception, violence, carping, community disharmony, non-integration, parasitism], is stated here....

"...we must remove ISLAM, from among us.
It should be our governments policy,
* to destroy all mosques,
* deport all imam's,
* and to deport any [and every] person who claims to practice, and follow, the political philosophy called, ISLAM."

"Israel accused over Gaza wounded"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1231430119/10#10

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carp[ing] = =complain or find fault continually.

Google,
ISLAM cannot co-exist muslims believe they must become dominant
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=ISLAM+cannot+co-exist+muslims+believe+th...

The words of that Google search [above], is a statement of fact.

And that fact, is the root problem non-muslim have in 'accommodating' muslims/ISLAM in our midst.

We imagine, that we can 'accommodate' muslims in our midst, and that it cannot harm us.

THE TRUTH IS THAT....

If we embrace evil, if we accommodate evil, evil will envelope us.

Until we ourselves become that evil, and / or until it has destroyed what we once were.

All evil, wickedness, is a cancer, which destroys all merit, and goodness in us.

Evil will kill everything good in us, unless we separate ourselves from it.

ISLAM, is pure evil.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #99 - Mar 15^th, 2009 at 11:23am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2009 at 10:59am:

Yadda, do you think you could leave out the English lesson every time you post? I think we're all smart enough to be aware of the meaning of 'laudable' for example.

helian,

I am assuming that not everyone who visits this forum, has English as their first language.

The internet is available worldwide. Wink

And besides that, i find that i like to refresh my own understanding of what a word that i am using in a sentence, really means.

And i don't see anything wrong with that.

Sorry helian, i apologise, if you take offence at my elucidation. Wink

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #100 - Mar 15^th, 2009 at 11:34am

Well, non native English speakers are going to have a lot more trouble than the odd multi-syllabic word (not that they can’t use an online dictionary themselves). Non-Australians are going to have to plough their way through our vernacular as well and our Australian sense of humour, the meaning of which is mostly coded.

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Reply #101 - Mar 16^th, 2009 at 1:10pm

Profit of hate - Ranting Muslim cleric who mocks our heroes rakes in thousands in benefits
By Daniel Sanderson, 15/03/2009

A MUSLIM hate preacher who led a baying mob against homecoming British soldiers is raking in THOUSANDS in BENEFITS, the News of the World can reveal.

Foul-mouthed mullah Ishtiaq Alamgir—branded “the enemy within” for his loathsome rants against Britain—claims to be working as a teacher.

But we’ve discovered that what the lying 29-year-old crazed cleric REALLY claims is £220 a fortnight in unemployment handouts jointly with wife Musert Bashir, 30.

He gets £167 a week full housing benefit to keep him in his comfortable £200,000, three-bedroom home as he orchestrates campaigns against the country that feeds him. And he pocketed thousands of pounds in income support for months in 2006.

Scrounger Alamgir—who says he felt “elated” when he watched the 9/11 planes crash into the Twin Towers—was in the public eye last week leading a group of louts in Luton as they spat abuse at 200 Royal Anglian troops on their homecoming march.

He laughed and goaded police as protestors—holding ‘Butchers of Basra’ banners—clashed with soldiers’ families.

In a vile rant, Alamgir said: “They come here to Luton where Muslims live and expect to be greeted like heroes.”

They don’t expect to be treated like heroes, even though they are. But they DO pay their taxes—which is more than can be said for Alamgir.

He told reporters he was an English and Maths teacher. But in reality he quit his job as an accountant two years ago to become a Muslim extremist and follow in the footsteps of his hero—evil firebrand cleric Omar Bakri, now exiled in Lebanon.

Alamgir, who has two children, became leader of Luton’s now banned extremist group al-Muhajiroun when Bakri was booted out of Britain. Every week, instead of finding work, he hands out radical Islamic leaflets and spouts bile.

Along with his group of 20-strong followers, he strives to turn impressionable Muslim teenagers against Britain.

The News of the World caught up with Alamgir and his cronies at his parents’ home in Luton.

The cleric stared back blankly when we asked him about his benefits, then slammed the door and shouted: “Haven’t you left yet?”

Last night it emerged that the Luton lunatics could be sued.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith wants to introduce new powers to allow legal action against extremists who offend the public.

Meanwhile thousands of people lined the streets of Derby and Bolton yesterday to welcome home the 9/12th Lancers Regiment from Iraq.

In Derby a crowd estimated at more than 5,000 waved Union Jacks and cheered as 150 men and two Scimitar tanks paraded through the city centre.

There was no repeat of the Luton scenes. Shokat Lal, chairman of Derby Pakistani Community Centre, said: “What the people did in Luton is not representative of the Muslim community in Derby.”

The News of the Screws has pictures http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/218174/A-Muslim-hate-preacher-who-led-mob-a...

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Reply #102 - Mar 16^th, 2009 at 9:34pm

Muslim prick's windows smashed in Luton, house under police guard. Insensitive neighbours fly Union Jack.

The Sun had this story, probably direct from the neighbours, early this morning and now the Daily Mail has taken it up.

OUTRAGE erupted last night as police lavished a 24-hour VIP guard on a Muslim fanatic who branded British soldiers “criminals”.
Warped Yousaf Bashir yelled abuse at 200 heroic troops at their homecoming parade from Iraq.
He and his 14 cronies waved placards calling the soldiers — from 2nd Battalion, the Royal Anglian Regiment — “the butchers of Basra”, “murderers and terrorists” and “baby killers” in Luton, Beds.
On Friday night, two windows and glass in the door of the home in the town he shares with his parents were smashed, along with the rear windows of cars parked in the drive.
But in a show of solidarity with the soldiers, seven homes in Bashir’s street have been decorated with Union flags.
Neighbours reacted with fury to the protection given to Bashir.
Kevin Hattle, 52, said: “I am appalled. My shed was broken into and a motorbike was stolen, but the police did not even come out.”
Another said: “If a white racist had his windows put in, police would not give him round-the-clock protection as if he was a member of the Royal Family. He is supposed to hate this country but calls on it to protect him.”
A police spokeswoman said: “We increased patrols in the area as a result of an attack on the house which took place sometime between late Friday and early Saturday.”

Elsewhere in Luton a march by 500 Muslim men and boys to celebrate Mohammed's birthday went off unhindered over the weekend.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: UK Muslims Stampede through UK Army Parade Reply #103 - Mar 16^th, 2009 at 9:54pm thats great that LOCALS flew the union jack. Hopefully the Southern cross will be as staunch
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Calanen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2241	Re: UK Muslims Stampede through UK Army Parade Reply #104 - Mar 18^th, 2009 at 4:39am NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2009 at 10:59am: Yadda, do you think you could leave out the English lesson every time you post? I think we're all smart enough to be aware of the meaning of 'laudable' for example. You certainly aren't, and neither is Lestat, but the rest of us might be.
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