abu_rashid wrote on Mar 11
th, 2009 at 1:34pm:
The critical point most seem to be overlooking here is that we're talking about Britain, which claims to be a bastion of free speech. Not about Saudi, Afghanistan, or a future Caliphate.
That's not the critical point. They could have stood idly by a parade with placards as daft as that is. They didnt - they interrupted the parade itself like the muppets that they are. That's not free speech, that's the intimidatory mob mentality.
And they are the hypocrites requesting free speech when they denounce it - remember the placard 'FREEDOM GO TO HELL!' that is what Islam stands for.
Quote:Hold yourself up to your own standards, not to the standards of others.
No you see Abu, the standards of others only apply to Islam when it suits. They want all the benefits of a democratic society, but none of the responsibilities. They want the protection of the defence force, but not for the government and democracy of the day to determine where the defence force is going if they do not like it. They want the benefits of citizenship, but are not prepared to serve in the armed service if they disagree with any particular deployment.
They want free speech for themselves, but not for anyone else, crying racism or islamophobia when anybody criticises them.
Quote:Since those Muslims are living in Britain, they are subject to the British laws and values, which include free speech, or so we're told. So don't come carrying on about values in Muslim countries, it's got absolutely nothing to do with it. We're talking about British citizens *IN* Britain.
So what - they don't believe in any of these values. They want these values only to promote their own agenda to destroy them all. They are using these values to deny people of human rights, democracy and freedom.
Quote:All you're suggesting is that you don't actually believe in free speech. You believe in it for your own race/religion/whatever but when it comes to others, even if they're citizens of the same state, you seek to deny them the same access to those values and liberties.
They can say whatever they like. They can't interrupt parades. But they can also be criticised for what they do, and they were.
If someone had an anti-Mohammed parade in the UK, and violent muslims attacked - you would be cheering them on Abu, and say that there is no right to free speech when it comes to slandering religion or some such.
Just like when the violent muslims had protests about Gaza in the UK. So you want violent protests for Islam for whatever it doesnt like. At the same time you want no one to react to anything Islam does, no matter how offensive or distasteful. And picketing and interrupting a military parade for returning combat heroes that fought for the Crown is appalling - for people who say they are patriotic. They are nothing of the sort. They are tenants in the UK. Ungrateful tenants who want to destroy the landlord's home and hate his employees.
The people in the crowd shouldnt have tried to attack the muslims, although, harassing returning soldiers that have fought for the Crown is going to cause any patriotic Britain to have very strong feelings.
Muslims are the true hypocrites. They don't believe in free speech. They dont believe in democracy. They don't believe in dissent of any kind. Yet they want all of these things extended to them, nay demand them, but they are tolerant of nothing and loyal to nothing in return for the UK extending such freedoms to them.
As society breaks down from this depression, expect zero tolerance to be more and more apparent. People are tired of the same old pathetic policies from governments and are looking for stronger action.
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