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abu_rashid

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Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Mar 9^th, 2009 at 8:29am

Surely this headline has to be a mistake? Surely it should read "Cleric shot dead in mosque"???

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Illinois Pastor shot dead during service

Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:49:04 GMT

Pastor Fred Winters was shot and killed during a service.

A gunman has attacked an Illinois church packed with some 150 people, killing a pastor during service, the Maryville Police Department says.

The accident took place on Sunday morning in front of the perplexed parishioners in the First Baptist Church in Maryville, about 30 km (20 miles) northeast of St. Louis, Illinois.

The suicidal attacker walked up one of the aisles at the church and exchanged words with Pastor Fred Winters, who walked over towards him. The suspect then pulled out a .45-caliber pistol and fired one shot, Illinois State police spokesman Ralph Timmens said.

The gunman then pulled out a knife began stabbing himself when the gun jammed, police said.

"Some parishioners tackled him and held him on the floor," Timmens said, AFP reported.

"Two subjects received knife injuries during the restriction of the subject and were treated at hospital."

According to police, there were approximately 150 people in the church at the time of the incident.

Two of those who went after the attacker suffered non-life-threatening injuries, while the suspect's injuries are "very serious," Timmens said.

The Illinois shooting is believed to be the nation's first in a church since July, when a 58-year-old man opened fire in a Knoxville, Tennessee. Two people were killed and six others were wounded in the shooting at Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church.

Source: Press TV

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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #1 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 8:45am Quote: Surely this headline has to be a mistake? Surely it should read "Cleric shot dead in mosque"??? Why is that?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #2 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 8:49am Because people commit violent acts like this because of their religion being a violent evil ideology. And we all know Christianity is a nice peaceful loving ideology. So this incident can't possibly be true.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41491 Gender:	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #3 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 9:10am sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. There is no reason at all why it would be impossible that a pastor could not be shot.
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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #4 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 9:11am You really are a bitter person aren't you? What does your god think about people such as yourself? Or does your god condone your behaviour and hatred.....that's probably it.
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Reply #5 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 9:41am

sprint,

That's right, sometimes people, even religious people, commit crimes, even extreme crimes...

Kind of hypocritical though that when it's Muslims we don't stop hearing about how Islam is to blame, yet when it's Christians, it's just a normal everyday occurence... Nothing to do with Christianity at all, right?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41491 Gender:	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #6 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 9:45am we've been throuh this before. Where in the bible does it say to shoot pastors ?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #7 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 10:15am I'll show you, just as soon as you show me in the Qur'an where it says to shoot 'clerics'.
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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service Reply #8 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 10:16am Blah blah blah "my religion is better than your religion" carry on, over and over and over. yawn.
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Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Reply #9 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 1:17pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 9^th, 2009 at 9:10am:

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

There is no reason at all why it would be impossible that a pastor could not be shot.

That's ok, Abu is the lowest form of human.

I bet whoever did do it, didn't do it because he said that he was part of a Christian jihad. And even if he did, he would be only one of a handful, not one of millions like Islam.

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