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Mar 3^rd, 2009 at 9:06pm

islamic banks discriminate on grounds of religion.
Not surprising, the whole oppressive belief discriminates on grounds of religion.

England is shot because it was "tolerant" of the intolerant.
denmark allowed them in, now regret it dearly.

keep any discriminatory intolerant belief from our shores.
What is your thoughts, abu the intolerant deciever ?

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #1 - Mar 3^rd, 2009 at 10:23pm What is (sic) my thoughts? My thoughts is that you're speaking a load of crap. Goto MCCA, the main Islamic bank in Australia and apply for a loan... they're open to anyone. Be careful though, once they get you trapped into a home loan they'll force you to convert to Islam or pay jizya on top!!
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Reply #2 - Mar 3^rd, 2009 at 10:35pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2009 at 10:23pm:

What is (sic) my thoughts?

My thoughts is that you're speaking a load of crap.

Goto MCCA, the main Islamic bank in Australia and apply for a loan... they're open to anyone. Be careful though, once they get you trapped into a home loan they'll force you to convert to Islam or pay jizya on top!! Grin

Is it true that
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Islamic banking is restricted to Islamically acceptable deals, which exclude those involving alcohol, pork, gambling, etc.

If it is true is this practice discriminatory, which means that it is you and not sprint who are speaking a load of crap?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41491 Gender:	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #3 - Mar 4^th, 2009 at 8:22am If nonmuslims have to pay jizya and muslims don't, that is discriminatory on the grounds of religion. Can the nonmuslim world SUE muslims for discrimination ?
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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #4 - Mar 4^th, 2009 at 8:46am I guess the question to abu would be, do muslim and non muslim clients get treated exactly the same? A simple yes or no response is all that's required.
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Reply #5 - Mar 4^th, 2009 at 12:29pm

jordan484 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2009 at 8:46am:

I guess the question to abu would be, do muslim and non muslim clients get treated exactly the same? A simple yes or no response is all that's required.

jordan,

Nice try.

Holding your breathe for that simple reply.

But you are turning blue!!

Breathe, breathe!

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"......do muslim and non muslim clients get treated exactly the same?"

Even if a muslim said such a loan was not discriminatory against non-muslims, going on past experience,
.....I WOULD NOT BELIEVE A WORD A MUSLIM SAID.

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Reply #6 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 8:28am

jordan484 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2009 at 8:46am:

I guess the question to abu would be, do muslim and non muslim clients get treated exactly the same? A simple yes or no response is all that's required.

Not sure if you have seen this question or not, I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume no, so I'll throw it out to you again....

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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #7 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 6:03pm Ok, so I think I'll take that as a no.
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Reply #8 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 7:09am

Tallow,

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If it is true is this practice discriminatory, which means that it is you and not sprint who are speaking a load of crap?

People can choose to invest their money wherever they like. If they choose not to invest in something they find morally wrong, that's hardly discrimination.

Jordan,

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I guess the question to abu would be, do muslim and non muslim clients get treated exactly the same? A simple yes or no response is all that's required.

Write them an email and ask them. Although I'm sure you assume all Muslims in Australia know eachother and know the workings of eachother's businesses inside out, I assure you it's not the case.

Here is their website. Feel free to read it over and email them your questions.

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Reply #9 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 7:23am

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6^th, 2009 at 7:09am:

Write them an email and ask them. Although I'm sure you assume all Muslims in Australia know eachother and know the workings of eachother's businesses inside out, I assure you it's not the case.

Here is their website. Feel free to read it over and email them your questions.

Why would I assume all muslims in Australia would know each other, and even if I did, what does that have to do with my question? What I did assume was a muslim would know the answer to what is seemingly a basic question about Islamic banking, I highly doubt you do not know the answer. I suspect, however, you do not want to give it as it may show Islam being discriminatory against non muslims.

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Reply #10 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 8:27am

jordan484 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2009 at 7:23am:

Why would I assume all muslims in Australia would know each other, and even if I did, what does that have to do with my question? What I did assume was a muslim would know the answer to what is seemingly a basic question about Islamic banking, I highly doubt you do not know the answer. I suspect, however, you do not want to give it as it may show Islam being discriminatory against non muslims.

Why don't you look it up yourself. Or are you incapable of doing some basic research. Are you to dumb to figure it out yourself, that you need someone to dumb it down for you.

Abu provided the link, it shouldn't be hard to click on it and do some reading, even for someone of 'limited' abilitites such as yourself.

And actually, sorry to disapoint you, but under the Caliphate many non-muslims embraced Islamic banking, and it was not and is not discriminatory against non-muslims.

But of course we both know that this is not the answer you want to hear, so how bout yout stop wasting everyone's time and just look it up yourself.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #11 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 9:59am I guess the question to jordan would be, does the ANZ offer non-interest-bearing accounts that Muslims can use? A simple yes or no response is all that's required.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41491 Gender:	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #12 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 10:24am abu - i believe all aussie banks offer fee free accounts to minors. Be they muslims or dhimmis. There may also be some other sector of society that is eligable for fee free accounts, those on a sickness/disability pension, I am unsure on that though. Again, their personal belief is immaterial in our society
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Reply #13 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 11:35am

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6^th, 2009 at 9:59am:

I guess the question to jordan would be, does the ANZ offer non-interest-bearing accounts that Muslims can use? A simple yes or no response is all that's required.

Tell you what, you answer my question first, and I'll consider answering yours when you explain how non Islamic banks discriminate on the basis of religion.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41491 Gender:	Re: islamic banks discriminate Reply #14 - Mar 6^th, 2009 at 11:53am Jordan - lestat answered that Quote: .......Islamic banking, and it was not and is not discriminatory against non-muslims.
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