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Taking 'heaven' by force???
These verses are an encouragement to muslims to Jihad, to strive for victory, and for the 'WAR BOOTY', which is Allah's 'gift' to muslims.
Allah has overcame the Jews & Christians, 'and cast terror into their hearts'.
Everything that the un-believers have, THEIR LANDS, their possessions, belongs to muslims!
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html#033.025v. 25 - 27
Allah's promise, to muslims.
The muslims will overcome the unbelievers.
And as each new land falls to the influence of ISLAM,
....the unbelievers must see who will win.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/021.qmt.html#021.043v. 43 & 44
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abu_rashid wrote on Feb 26
th, 2009 at 9:49pm:
Yadda, it's interesting that you quote from the book of Deuteronomy. Tell me did you ever read that book from start to finish?
Yes.
Quote:Or do you just pick out the pieces that suit your agenda and leave aside those pieces that don't?
"Believe ye in part of the Scripture and disbelieve ye in part thereof?" (Qur'an 2:85)
There's some interesting 'commands' from your Lord in that book about how to conduct yourself with the neighbouring cities and nations...
abu,
You [mistakenly?] misrepresent, God's intent, spoken in that book.
You portray such a text as a justification for muslim supremacism, and muslim world domination, and aggression.
abu,
I PROMISE YOU, you muslims
will never,
can never, take 'heaven' by force. [Yadda smiles]
And the supposed intent [within Deuteronomy], which muslims point to [as a justification for their own conduct],
was never the lesson being taught to mankind, in God's word [the Bible].
That book [Deuteronomy] speaks of the history of ancient Israel.
The ancient Israelites were coming into [taking possession of]
a
land, which God had promised to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob [Israel].
That account, in Deuteronomy also speaks of our future,
IT IS PROPHETIC.
It speaks of when my God will take possession of 'his land' -
on 'judgement day'.
Read on.
Quote:Deuteronomy 20:10-18....
So this book you're quoting, which you seem to think is good for guidance and instruction on how to conduct oneself, we find that you should go to other nations and cities, proclaim "peace" to them,
abu,
Proclaim "peace"?
Let us compare, ancient Israel, with today's ISLAM, and how both have approached their [God's] 'enemies'.
Israel = = came to take possession of 'the promised land', and Israel declared their intent -
OPENLY.
The children of Israel
DECLARED TRUTHFULLY THEIR INTENT.
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"Surrender to God's people - OR ELSE!"Muslims = = when they come into other lands, declare to their hosts,
.....
"ISLAM is peace, ISLAM is a tolerant religion."Muslims use firstly lies, and deceit, and then lastly violence, in their attempt to destroy the culture of the host countries they enter, seeking finally to terrify their weakened 'enemy' into submission, and
capitulation.
abu,
How appropriate, the particular Koran verse you quoted in your post....
"And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not."
(Qur'an 2:11-12)
Quote:....and if they do not accept to live under you as tributaries, then put them to the sword, but not the women, children, cattle and EVERYTHING in the city, that what God has set aside as spoils for you. Not just that, but we see it is based upon people who believe in a different religion to you, their religions being classed as "abominations".
And when we look at the Judaeo-Christian nations in the world today, we find this is exactly how they behave to other religions, namely Islam. They come to Palestine, they come to Iraq, they come to Afghanistan, to Lebanon, to Libya, proclaim themselves to be peacemakers, and then proceed to lay waste to the cities, slaughtering the people en masse, and then carrying off all the riches for themselves. Nothing much has changed has it? It's quite obvious you are quoting the book of Deuteronomy, because you wholeheartedly believe in it. You just like to pretend you're all peaceful and benign.. nothing more evil than a snake in the grass.
"And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not." (Qur'an 2:11-12)
abu,
You give a very disingenuous account of Western culture/nations.
You know very well, that when muslims have come, seeking sanctuary, muslims have been warmly welcomed as 'poor' and 'oppressed' muslims into the hearts of these nations.
Muslims have been afforded, and enjoyed, all of the rights of full citizens.
While, as a 'reward' for the kindness of Western nations, muslim communities have hidden their intent, of muslim treachery.
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