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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7579 Gender:	Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Feb 17^th, 2009 at 11:29pm Did they show the act on islamic tv, like they did it with Nick Berg?
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Reply #1 - Feb 18^th, 2009 at 7:57am

They did a reinactment on lifetime channel for their new movie.

It involved a beautiful, flawless woman getting beheaded by some drunken male with zits all over his face.

All the other men in the movie were depicted as just completely oblivious or doormats, and ultimately come running to their mary sue main character's aid but it is too late. The dreaded alpha male has struck again! When will men learn that women are the surpirior gender?!

You can watch it again on Lifetime channel this weekend right after the color purple and sister act.

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Reply #2 - Feb 18^th, 2009 at 8:11am

That's mild compared with the woman in NSW who worked in an abbatoir. She stabbed her de facto 37 times with a butcher's knife, skinned him, hung his hide from a meat hook in her lounge room to cure and then cooked his body parts for meals for his children.

She makes Muzzammil Hassan look civilised in comparison.

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Reply #3 - Feb 18^th, 2009 at 8:14am

mantra wrote on Feb 18^th, 2009 at 8:11am:

That's mild compared with the woman in NSW who worked in an abbatoir. She stabbed her de facto 37 times with a butcher's knife, skinned him, hung his hide from a meat hook in her lounge room to cure and then cooked his body parts for meals for his children.

She makes Muzzammil Hassan look civilised in comparison.

Hey, if you're going to murder someone. You might as well make use out of the corpse.

I'd rather give the corpse to some necrophyliac to have his way with. Seeing as I definitely would not ingest anything involving my enemies..

But atleast that woman was thinking with portals!

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7579 Gender:	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #4 - Feb 18^th, 2009 at 10:33pm "Any word yet on why he killed her? Maybe she cheated on him? Or apostacised? " (c) freediver There are rumours that it was an accident. Hassan only was trying his new battery operated tooth brush.
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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #5 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 12:41am Whoosh, there goes another point, flying straight over mantra's head. Do you believe there is any cultural imperative for stabbing someone 37 times, and then feeding the corpse to his children, Mantra?
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Reply #6 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 7:30am

mozzaok wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 12:41am:

Whoosh, there goes another point, flying straight over mantra's head.

Do you believe there is any cultural imperative for stabbing someone 37 times, and then feeding the corpse to his children, Mantra?

Must be feminist movement. They did very similar things to Orpheus time ago.
However it is strange that the feminists don't bleed their harts for the poor sisters who are victims of "honour" killings in predominantly muslim countries like Jordan.

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Kifaya, a Jordanian girl of 12, was intelligent and full of curiosity. But when she returned home one evening from a walk in the neighbourhood with some friends, she was confronted by her enraged father. Shouting that she had dishonoured the entire family, her father proceeded to beat Kifaya with sticks and iron chains until she was dead. He told police he killed his only daughter because she went for walks without his permission.

About the same time, Hanan, 34, was shot dead by her brother for the "crime" of marrying a Christian. Her brother left her body in the street and smoked a cigarette while he waited for the police to arrive. Every year between 25 and 50 women and girls are the victims of "honour" killings in Jordan.

United Nations Population Fund

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Reply #7 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 7:52pm

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Do you believe there is any cultural imperative for stabbing someone 37 times, and then feeding the corpse to his children, Mantra?

Of course not, only the culture of Muslims affect their behaviour. Westerners only do such things if they're mentally deranged. Muslims aren't mentally deranged though, it's just their culture.

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Reply #8 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 8:41pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 7:52pm:

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Do you believe there is any cultural imperative for stabbing someone 37 times, and then feeding the corpse to his children, Mantra?

Of course not, only the culture of Muslims affect their behaviour. Westerners only do such things if they're mentally deranged. Muslims aren't mentally deranged though, it's just their culture.

People who take their religion so seriously as to kill in its name are deranged. This is not confined to islam but is certainly much more prominet among muslims nowadays then among western secularists or even Christian fundamentalist and, dare I mention them, joos.

There are an awful lot of muslims ready to kill, or at the very least threaten to kill, in the name of Islam.

The point - there are a lot of insane islamists who are insane because they are islamists. Every suicide bomber, head hacker, Benbrinka and Atta, every placard carrying, 'Allahu Akbar' shouting demonstrator on the streets of london, paris, Sydney belongs to this category. They are all deranged by way of a personal choice.

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Reply #9 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 9:22pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 7:52pm:

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Do you believe there is any cultural imperative for stabbing someone 37 times, and then feeding the corpse to his children, Mantra?

Of course not, only the culture of Muslims affect their behaviour. Westerners only do such things if they're mentally deranged. Muslims aren't mentally deranged though, it's just their culture.

The UN report says that "The report says that "honour" killings tend to be more prevalent in, but are not limited to, countries with a majority Muslim population."

How do you explain the prevalence of "honour" killings in muslim countries?

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Reply #10 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 10:27pm

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How do you explain the prevalence of "honour" killings in muslim countries?

I know this one. It's because the 'evil west' interfered and dismantled their Caliphate. If they had a Caliphate, they could kill apostates and adulterers in a nice orderly fashiopn, with the correct sized stones. But because of the 'evil wests' interference, they have to resort to these disorganised 'honour killings'.

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Reply #11 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 4:10am

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How do you explain the prevalence of "honour" killings in muslim countries?

What on earth do 'honour' killings have to do with this case??

If a Western man kills his wife cos she is going to divorce him, is that an 'honour' killing? Or is it only if a Muslim does it?

These claims are truly ridiculous.

A man killed his wife in a domestic dispute end of story (for the normal sane people), but for the Islamophobes noooo it's all about Islam isn't it. Every single thing any Muslim ever does is always about Islam isn't it?

You people aren't even worth debating with, really,

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Reply #12 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 7:35am

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 20^th, 2009 at 4:10am:

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How do you explain the prevalence of "honour" killings in muslim countries?

What on earth do 'honour' killings have to do with this case??

If a Western man kills his wife cos she is going to divorce him, is that an 'honour' killing? Or is it only if a Muslim does it?

These claims are truly ridiculous.

A man killed his wife in a domestic dispute end of story (for the normal sane people), but for the Islamophobes noooo it's all about Islam isn't it. Every single thing any Muslim ever does is always about Islam isn't it?

You people aren't even worth debating with, really,

Don’t be a bigot, abu. According to Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch "the practice goes across cultures and across religions".

While precise figures do not exist for the perpetrators' cultural backgrounds, Diana Nammi of the UK's Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organisation have said:"about two-thirds are Muslim. Yet they can also be Hindu, Sikh and even eastern European."

Perhaps the prevalence of "honour" killing in muslim communities can be explained by origins of islam in Arabic culture.
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Sharif Kanaana, professor of anthropology at Birzeit University states that honor killing is:
A complicated issue that cuts deep into the history of Arab society. .. What the men of the family, clan, or tribe seek control of in a patrilineal society is reproductive power. Women for the tribe were considered a factory for making men. The honour killing is not a means to control sexual power or behavior. What's behind it is the issue of fertility, or reproductive power.

Here is na exelent article about the phenomenon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

BTW, "honour" killing in Pakistan goes under the name Karo Kari, which sounds something between hara kiri and cursed curry.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #13 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 8:13am Honour killing has nothing to do with Islam, even if 100% of cases were by Muslims. And it likewise has nothing to do with this issue we're discussing. You're simply throwing it in for good measure.
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Reply #14 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 1:17pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 20^th, 2009 at 8:13am:

Honour killing has nothing to do with Islam, even if 100% of cases were by Muslims.

And it likewise has nothing to do with this issue we're discussing.

You're simply throwing it in for good measure.

But the issue we are discussing is about reason why the founder of the muslim2dhimmies bridge cut head of his wife. The options are 1 It was a drinking rage ... but muslims don't drink; 2 the "honour" killings are limited to pakistan national custom ... may be but we see the same happening elsewhere else; 3 because he is muslim ... statistics of the global frequency distribution of the "honour" killings confirm that.

I know that officially muslim leaders condemn the practice but why so many devoted muslims ignore their leaders?

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