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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #15 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 8:02pm abu_rashid wrote on Feb 20^th, 2009 at 8:13am: Honour killing has nothing to do with Islam, even if 100% of cases were by Muslims. You are truly delusional and an out-right liar.
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Reply #16 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 11:13pm

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The options are 1 It was a drinking rage ... but muslims don't drink; 2 the "honour" killings are limited to pakistan national custom ... may be but we see the same happening elsewhere else; 3 because he is muslim ... statistics of the global frequency distribution of the "honour" killings confirm that.

Or 4. he was just a nutcase, like when any Western kills his wife.

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Reply #17 - Feb 21^st, 2009 at 10:29am

Honour killing has nothing to do with Islam, even if 100% of cases were by Muslims.

Except for things like death for apostasy, death for cheating etc, right Abu? Why is it that you think this guy is a nutcase, but you are not when you call for the stoning to death of apostates, blasphemers and straying child brides?

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #18 - Feb 21^st, 2009 at 8:55pm If someone burns a U.S flag in the U.S can the mob lynch him because they suspect he might be a traitor to his country? Would their murder of him have anything to do with America's death penalty for treason?
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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #19 - Feb 21^st, 2009 at 10:00pm Deflect deflect deflect. Answer the question for once, abu, you bloody pathetic coward.
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Reply #20 - Feb 21^st, 2009 at 10:02pm

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If someone burns a U.S flag in the U.S can the mob lynch him because they suspect he might be a traitor to his country?

No. A mate of mine did that while I was over there, to protest against them making it illegal to burn the flag. He singed his eyebrows. It was more a ball of flame than a regular flag burning. I don't know what they normally use, but you shouldn't use petrol.

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Would their murder of him have anything to do with America's death penalty for treason?

Abu, you actually support death for apostates, blasphemers, cheating wives etc, right? That is, you would consider such a death just?

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Reply #21 - Feb 21^st, 2009 at 10:29pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 21^st, 2009 at 8:55pm:

If someone burns a U.S flag in the U.S can the mob lynch him because they suspect he might be a traitor to his country? Would their murder of him have anything to do with America's death penalty for treason?

You are in sore need for someone to grab you by the scruff of the neck, shake you, slap you around and scream into your face from very close-up: 'wake up, snap out of it!! And then hang you on a peg somewere miles away from this wrethed miserable nonsense that you have been sucking up for far too long.

What the hell is wrong with you?!!? What damned dehumanising, delusional fog has taken possession of your faculties?!?

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Reply #22 - Feb 22^nd, 2009 at 10:58am

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Abu, you actually support death for apostates, blasphemers, cheating wives etc, right? That is, you would consider such a death just?

He never said that. All he said was that a beheading has nothing to do with being Muslim. Murder is murder. The motivation behind the murder is left for the courts to decide and it is wrong to assume "oh, that's how Muslims murder. Those damn dirty Muslims!"

That's how racism starts.

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Reply #23 - Feb 22^nd, 2009 at 12:35pm

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He never said that.

Yes he did. Just not in this thread.

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Murder is murder.

Abu would like to see it become legal to stone people to death for things that are not even considered crimes now. He thinks the government should organise the stoning, truck in a load of suitably small stones (so the victim doesn't die and miss out on the prolonged suffering), then round up members of the public and get them to throw the stones. It would be a good occasion to socialise and maybe pick up a fourth wife.

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That's how racism starts.

It's got nothing to do with racism. I think abu is of Anglo decent. It's about ideology.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41571 Gender:	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #24 - Feb 22^nd, 2009 at 12:50pm f/d - Women would probably not be permitted to a good old fashioned stoning. their husbands would have to give consent first. same as any outing. A stoning may be a boysonly day out. Perhaps a religious duty, rather than a social outing. Maybe sort of like a strip club for us westerners.
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Reply #25 - Feb 22^nd, 2009 at 12:59pm

Maybe you're right sprint. I'll have to ask Abu about that. Maybe it becomes sort of like a sport, where the big men line up and see who can do the most damage to the little girl. You can imagine the Muslim men getting embarassed if they missed by a couple of meters or something like that, in front of all their mates. Then afterwards they can gather round the milk bar and recount how they gave that nasty bitch what she deserved.

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Reply #26 - Feb 23^rd, 2009 at 2:42pm

Jim Profit wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2009 at 10:58am:

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Abu, you actually support death for apostates, blasphemers, cheating wives etc, right? That is, you would consider such a death just?

He never said that. All he said was that a beheading has nothing to do with being Muslim. Murder is murder. The motivation behind the murder is left for the courts to decide and it is wrong to assume "oh, that's how Muslims murder. Those damn dirty Muslims!"

That's how racism starts.

How is Islam a race, you muppet.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Jim Profit Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 439 Gender:	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #27 - Feb 23^rd, 2009 at 2:51pm Quote: How is Islam a race, you muppet. How are Jews a race?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41571 Gender:	Re: Islamic TV founder beheads his wife Reply #28 - Feb 23^rd, 2009 at 3:23pm F/D - hahahhaha. I can see the utter humiliation of a muslim missing with a stone. esp is the girl was buried to her waist in soil. A sitting target.
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Reply #29 - Feb 23^rd, 2009 at 4:29pm

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abu_rashid wrote on Feb 18th, 2009, 9:48pm:
Calanen,

All the verses you pasted say hit, not cut, they don't appear to refer to beheading whatsoever.

The other texts you've brought are not Islamic texts (ie. Qur'an or Sunnah) and have no authority in Islamic rulings and beliefs, as I'm sure you're aware.

Stop the word games Abu. You know that smiting people's necks is not tapping them on the back of the head playing tag, and you know that beheading is considered the special holy way of killing peoplen in Islam, the way to kill Jews too. Stop the obfuscation.

There is that bit about beheading in the film "Fitna" where one of the hate crazy islamic preachers works a crowd of devoted muslims into murderous frenzy reciting koran and brandishing sword over his head. He talks about beheading of Jews.

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