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Pet owner Greenie? I don't think so.
Feb 17th, 2009 at 1:08pm
 
This came from the hunting and fishing board but I was curious about what other people thought of this question.

I can't help every time I walk down the petfood section of the supermarket bu be amazed at the money and resourses. And even if you don't buy food for your pets this way, you do feed them right? The are consuming resourses right? Other WILD animals and their environments are being sacrificed to literally cater for warm fuzzy pet loving feelings. Right?


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.........many pets are incredibably destructive to the environment. Cats being probably the worst offenders (after humans)

There is also the issue of the vast amount of the globe's resourses that are used to cater for the pet owner and their pets. The amount of animals killed commercially each week to feed cats and dogs is probably more that what hunters take in a year or even 10. Also these resourses are in turn being denied to starving populations of HUMAN BEINGS.

Hands up the anti-hunters who are pet owners.


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Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2009 at 8:22pm
 
It's called irony. But it does compliment my inverse law of love theory.

The more people you try to love, the less you endup. That's why I treat everybody like poo. And saveup all my love and devotion for Julz..
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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 1:24pm
 
I would never own a cat for that reason. Nobody can prevent a cat from damaging the environment.

Dogs are at least less of a problem if you keep them in your yard. We have a small dog and he's good as a waste disposal unit. Dogs keep human stress under control. With stress under control, people are more likely to think about their actions and the consequences for the environment among other things.  We also tend to be more sensitive about the use of environmental poisons when a pet is present.
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Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2009 at 1:55pm
 
Good self justifications there muso, and as a dog lover, I heartily concur.

Cats should be outlawed.
All existing cats chipped and desexed, and after a moratorium period, for those to die, all cats should be exterminated on sight, never to be allowed on this continent again.

I have had girlfriends with cats, and while I love animals, in general, cats are just too damn predatory, and our wildlife are not geared to cope with their incredible killing capacity.

A good cat, is a cat, not in australia.
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Reply #4 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 2:10pm
 
Yeah right, Australia had spiders that crawl up in your rectum and lay eggs. Having too many cats is the least of your worries.

I'm not all that fond of cats, they're kind of pretencious. But my girlfriend likes cats, and I've had a cat for years because it was the only kitten nobody wanted. She was kind of buggered up in the head, and you could tell. Sortos an aspergers syndrome cat.. lol!

I put her outside hoping she'd kill poo. Birds, possums, whatever. That's the cats nature, and we should encourage it. Can't stand owners who try and domesticate their animals and turn them into fat weaklings... That's what went wrong with humans!

Nature is all about dominating or getting eaten. I choose to dominate. And no pet of mine is going to be eaten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ees-es7Ow64

Perfect song for what I'm expressing here.
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Reply #5 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 2:14pm
 
Jim, if you think our spiders are bad, just watch out for our women.
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Reply #6 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 2:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2009 at 2:14pm:
Jim, if you think our spiders are bad, just watch out for our women.

Well, the only women I'm exposed too from Australia are my girlfriend and her idiotic friends.

It's too bad neckbeards, smoking, and guns went out of style for America...

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It was a pretty good look...
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Reply #7 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 2:35pm
 
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I put her outside hoping she'd kill poo. Birds, possums, whatever. That's the cats nature, and we should encourage it. Can't stand owners who try and domesticate their animals and turn them into fat weaklings... That's what went wrong with humans


One day there'll be nothing else to kill but each other.  You said in one thread Jim that you starved your cat for a week.  What amazes me is that your parents allowed it and if this is the case - it's understandable why you are the way you are.  Don't get another pet.

I go along with Mozzaok and Muso on cats, although I did own 2 quite a few years ago that were foisted on me.  While I like all animals - we definitely shouldn't have cats in Australia.  I've always had dogs, but none of them have ever killed wildlife to my knowledge.  They've all totally ignored native birds, fowl, turkeys, lizards, domestic rabbits, guinea pigs etc feeding beside them, probably due to the fact that they've grown up with them and never found them interesting.

If you ever catch a cat with a native animal/bird in its mouth and it won't release it - give it a quick sharp karate chop on the back of the neck to open the jaws - not with enough force to kill it of course, just shock it a little.



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Reply #8 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 3:53pm
 
Yeah right. We all know you're the forum fascist. I'm surprised you don't want to make all the cats wear diapers, walk upright, and have to pay taxes...

It amazes me how it's always those who believe in evolution the loudest aren't willing to let it do it's thing. If your enviorment can't handle cats, then they best learn to. That's how evolution works.

I don't blame the cats. I blame the weak animals who can't standup to them. I'm not going to punish an animal for being an animal.

Also that's strike one mantra. I always knew you'd be the one who'd eventually piss me off. So just a fair warning. I'm American, and we Americans have very bad tempers. Don't be dissing my parenting skills, even when it comes to a cat.

Your little Hitler poo ain't nothing compared to my nuke dropping Harry Truman heritage.
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Reply #9 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 4:03pm
 
You should think about getting a chimp, Jim, I hear they can be barrels of fun.
You could even buy it a gun, and see how much fun you two could have with them, it would be a good evolutionary experiment for you to conduct.
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Reply #10 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 4:06pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Feb 22nd, 2009 at 4:03pm:
You should think about getting a chimp, Jim, I hear they can be barrels of fun.
You could even buy it a gun, and see how much fun you two could have with them, it would be a good evolutionary experiment for you to conduct.

You reminded me of Dane Cook's skit about owning a pet monkey.
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Reply #11 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 4:19pm
 
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Also that's strike one mantra. I always knew you'd be the one who'd eventually piss me off. So just a fair warning. I'm American, and we Americans have very bad tempers. Don't be dissing my parenting skills, even when it comes to a cat.


Well make your parents proud of you for a start little boy, by acting like a normal teenager, instead of some warped, desperate cartoon character.  You were the one who said you made your mother cry and she was worried sick about you being allowed to use a gun.  If you cared one iota about anything, you wouldn't stress your mother out by being so mental.  

And we have laws in this country, and other countries to protect us - and our 13 year old daughters - from crazies who think just like you,  so we don't get shot, have our house burned down or our tyres slashed.

Feed your bloody cat and grow up!
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Reply #12 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 4:24pm
 
lol, like I said, fascist.

You think I just wakeup one morning and decide I'm going to burn peoples houses?

I'm just not inhibited by the petty fake morality of society. A society that doesn't give a crap about me. You don't care how I treat my mother, or my cat, or anyone. You couldn't care less about their's or anybody elses suffering.

But you still want some say in how we can all act. That is messedup. You can be involved in the rules when you're willing to put your sweat and tears into it.

That's my ideology. I don't need laws to protect me. I don't make enemies, and in the unfourtanate event I have them anyway, I'm strong enough to take care of myself.

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Reply #13 - Feb 22nd, 2009 at 4:46pm
 
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A society that doesn't give a crap about me. You don't care how I treat my mother, or my cat, or anyone. You couldn't care less about their's or anybody elses suffering.


First of all you've got to give a crap about the society you live in and those around you and surprisingly it's often reciprocated.  As far as not caring less about anybody else's suffering - yes I do, but obviously I can't change the world, although I can protect and ease the suffering of those close to me and in my own tiny little part of this planet.

By teaching my family to respect their fellow human beings and to care for animals - they spread the message and sometimes people who don't know any better - listen to them.  Plenty of other people do this as well and it helps us all to protect each other and those weaker than us.

If no-one cared - we would still be living as savage neanderthals.
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