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Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:33pm
 
Do muslims have to oriented their bodies towards Arabia and why?
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Re:  requirements for prayer by muslims
Reply #1 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:51pm
 
Is it true that muslims have to wash their genitals and bottoms, which are higher then their heads during a prayer before a prayer?

I bet that muslim abu can not answer this question because he did not read relevant hadith or something.
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Reply #2 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 10:02pm
 
"There's difference of opinion." (c) abu

how does it answer above questions?
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 10:16pm
 
I can see abu is here but not answering, probably scanning hadiths or whatever they call it but can not find an answer that does not discredit islam.

Well, I'll wait and will ask it again.
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Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:55am
 
Even though I have no time for any religious beliefs, I don't think attempting to discredit all aspects of another person's faith is necessary Tallo.

If it is part of their personal spirituality, and has no negative impact on the broader community, then to just criticise it for the sake of it, could be fairly described as being Islamophobic.

There are plenty of "real" issues that muslims need to address, in regard to what they demand/desire, from non-muslims to accept, and attacking them over petty differences is just creating a greater divide, than is necessary.

So, as Abu would be unlikely to indulge you by answering these questions, I will tell you what I know of it.

Yes, all muslims face mecca when praying, so they know, or find out what direction that is, and stick to it.

I think that in Mecca itself, they have a shrine, or Obelisk type of thing, that contains the Black Rock, which they considered to be a holy sign from god, because it fell from heaven.
So naturally, it is believed to be from a meteorite, so they face this bit of space rock, when praying.

In the square at mecca itself, it depends on which side of the obelisk you are standing, as to what direction you face, so there is no set direction, just whatever direction faces the rock, in relevance to wherever you are oriented.

Being clean is not an undesirable trait, but I can see how it seems a bit obsessive to non-muslims, but as it does not effect us in any way, then why on earth should we care?
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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:12am
 
I don't need to discredit abu's faith he does it himself with his little jihad of deleting opponent's posts and/or banning opponents.

As for direction of prayer it is important theological question. For example the reason can be that islam is nationalistic ideology that's why muslims are prescribed to faith arabia when overseas. Also pinpointing mecca  and the rock proofs that allah was one of tribal meccan deities before mohammed enforced by violence his personal preference.


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Reply #6 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:18pm
 
Yes after the deleting and threatening to ban me I accidentally made a post ot 2 there and guess what...  innocuous as they wre they were deleted too.
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