We have the muslims, and muslim apologists, (which by dint of even needing apologists, says much about their philosophy), who frequent this forum, sometimes refer to Iran as a good example of a modern Islamic state, yet did anyone else hear them on the news, celebrating thirty years since their revolution, chanting, "Death To Israel", "Death To America".

Do we ever see mass rallies of the population, sanctioned by the authorities, chanting "Death To Muslims", in any nation on earth?
This open hostility against others who they feel disagree with their objectives, is proudly displayed in their home countries, yet they would seek to migrate to western countries, and then pretend that they do not harbour malevolent intentions toward those very democracies they seek refuge in.

If the situation ever arises of a muslim choosing between the country they live in, or Islam, it is no competition, and the fact is that Islam could very well call on them to act against the best needs of the country they have moved to.

And this thread reminds me of the sequel.

Dumb and dumberer!

:D:D

freediver wrote on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 3:35pm:

Do you see a difference between democracy and our democracy?

Helian are you trying to get at something with these questions? Is it the definition of democracy thing again?