WARNING: There are some graphic scenes below of victims of massacres.

THE GRANDCHILDREN OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS FROM WORLD WAR II ARE DOING TO THE PALESTINIANS EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM BY NAZI GERMANY...

BUILDING WALLS & FENCES TO KEEP PEOPLE IN PRISONS











CHECK POINTS NOT TO ALLOW PEOPLE BASIC FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT










ARRESTS & HARASSMENTS










DESTROYING HOMES & LIVELIHOODS






GIFTS (WITH LOVE) FROM THE CHILDREN OF PEACE-LOVING & CIVILIZED COUNTRIES














THE CLASSIC PROPAGANDA MACHINE - YOU WILL FIND THE PICTURE IN BLACK & WHITE IN ALL AMERICAN AND SOME OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES HISTORY BOOKS, ENCYCLOPAEDIAS, LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS… THAT DEPICTS A YOUNG JEWISH BOY WITH HIS HANDS UP WHILE NAZI TROOPS POINT THEIR GUNS AT HIM AND HIS FAMILY IN ORDER TO EXPEL THEM FROM THEIR HOMES… (IT’S SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU SYMPATHIZE WITH THE VICTIMS & TO SUPPORT THEIR CAUSE FOR JUSTICE & A HOMELAND)

THE ISRAELIS PRACTICE THE SAME TACTICS




Source: Norman G. Finkelstein

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Shouldn't the initial Palestinian year be 1948?? when the Zionist occupation of their land began.

Restricting it to just one single battle is pretty disingenious.

Also Mr. Finkelstein never said anything about an equation of numbers.

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 11:23pm:



Fine.

"At the outset of the 1948 war, the population of the Gaza region was approximately 60,000 to 80,000." (Al Jazeera) Add 200,000 refugees by thee eend of the first war. Round it all up to 300,000. Amend above fact sheet to include:

Number of Palestinians in Gaza 1948: 300,000
Number of Palestinians in Gaza 2009: 1.2 million


Happy?

Zionazism huh? How about, Islamonazism?







Who looks more like the Nazis?

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 5:41am:



They are suffering at their own hands, inflicting as much damage on themselves through infighting and clannish wars as they can. Israel gave asylum to Fatah gunmen, and treated them in its hospitals from gunshot wounds, as they fled from Hamas in the Gaza strip because they were barred by...er... palestinians from entering the west bank controlled by PA. See also the post elsewhere on the palos' unerring record of making the wrong choices every time.



Nazi treatment of Jews: According to a Gestapo official in Warsaw: “It is permissible to take from a Jew everything….Whoever wishes may kill a Jew, and our law will not punish him for it.” (Jan Karski report, 1942)

Hamas treatment of Jews: It is permissible to take from a Jew everything. Whoever wishes may kill a Jew, and our law will not punish
him for it.

Israeli treatment of Palestinians: Soldiers subject to strict discipline and code of behavior for whose violation soldiers are court-martialed and sent to prison.

Israeli humanitarian supplies for Gaza: regular shipments even while Hamas is attacking Israel, no one actually in Gaza even claims to be hungry; treatment of Palestinians in Israeli hospitals.

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Before I deal with this demonstration of learned expertise in international jurisprudence, I have to ask this one question. Why are the proponents of the White Master Race theory, always such poor examples of the Caucasian race? Like ugly, big ears, mishapen heads? Never really see any of the Aryan Race type SS guys these days. Just trailer trash. Anyhooo..on to this treatise on international law.

Do a Google on UN Resolution 181. It divided the British Mandate of Palestine into the Arab state and the Jewish state. Given that the UN passed a resolution about it, and the UN is, well, gosh gee fella, INTERNATIONAL, perhaps the Resolution was in accordance with, and not against, international law. Unless you meant to say you could appeal UN Resolution 181 to the Jedi High Council (which is of course interstellar) - then you may be in with a shot.

What was definitely against 'international law' my good white nationalist brains trust - was the fact that the Arabs decided to wipe their butts with UN Resolution 181 and kill everyone in the Jewish state newly created by the UN. As a result they lost their Arab state, that theyd just been given, AND, they didnt kill the Jews or the get the Jewish state. Now because they lost a war they started, repeatedly, they want me to feel sorry for them whenever the Jews kick them in the teeth? - no way there jose er I mean white nationalist joseph. They are the authors of their own misfortune.

You also really need to read something about all of this.

abu, didn't you say that lying is strictly forbidden in islam? I think you did.
So why do you perpetuate the lie that "in 1948 was a crime against humanity and was illegal under international law. "?

The historical fact is the international body said ok to creation of Israel.

Lestat wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 9:41pm:



hey doggy, go chew mohamed's bone if you can find it.

abu is perpetrator of the lie but he is you muslim bro isn't he?

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Raising her hand to be sworn in as Secretary of State is being a Nazi? You are reaching there Osama.

And Pope Benedict was in a Luftwaffe Gun crew. Good on him. He served his country.  He didnt start the war.

But Islam and jihadis idolise the Nazis. Because, Nazis hate jews. And well so do Muslims, hence the hero worship with the Nazi salute. I've got more photos if you like? And that's what it is, it is the archetypal nazi salute, not random people just having to wave their hands in the air like they just don't care at a bit of a dance off.

Except here is the big difference between Germans and Islamonutcases. Germans are meticulous disciplined planners, trainers, record keepers who have something innate that cannot be learnt - competence.

Islam's military people of choice are a bunch of ill disciplined rabble who "ins'allah' may get up for training before mid day if you are lucky. So idolize away.  The entirety the Hamas tough guys sitting in cafes drinking tea and driving their SUVs around would be like a little kids scout group compared to one company of SS.

Doesnt mean they cant keep idolising their heroes - the Nazis.

You are shameless in your attempts to make ridiculous comparisons. Dont worry though, you probably convinced Mantra and Gaybriel.

Calanen wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 10:38pm:



It is indeed the Ins'allan. It is the slovely, apathetic minds that cannot think for themselves and resign to ignorance under cover of Allan's will. The clannish social organissation prevents individual initiative, the lack of reason prevents the best man to be promoted and a bizarre mix of pride and incuriousity prevents innovation and problem solving.
Very suitable for the small cell, Mafia/Qaida operation of a handful of zealots destroying one objective and tribal warfare but uselss in organising anything large-scale, requiring cooperation and trust among strangers.
The social orgaanisation of each society reflects the concepts of of its gods. As in heaven, so on earth -  a despotic god begets despotic societies.

The nazis and the islamistss find each other easily enough. All you have to do is say 'joo' andd they both come runnng, draggers drawn.


They may hack each other, but only after they have finished with the joos. hence thee islamo-nazi axxis in the midlle east. As long as there are joos, Islamists and nazis will be allies and soul mates.

Here is an interesting article for former senior CIA operative Michael Scheuer about the covert  campaign by the Israeli intelligence services to paint Islam as a successor to Nazism.

"The goal of using the Nazi analogy is to suppress any realistic debate about the pluses and minuses of the U.S.-Israel relationship, and to make sure any American raising questions about U.S. support for Israel is seen as siding with the "Islamofascists," the heirs of Nazism. Any person who knows the least bit about Islam – and the Israelis know a great deal – knows it is not Nazism"
Source: Antiwar.com

He also paid suicide bombers (families) who targeted Jews.

Well no the US didn't support that, nor did it support the invasion of Kuwait.

World politics is a bit complex...  back in your shell les.

Like I said...  world politics complex...

You should stay in your shell out of the sun 

Protected by the West
At that time the regime was not worried about international reaction. In the recording of the meeting of 26 May 1987, Proconsul Al Majid declares: “I will kill them all with chemical weapons. Who is going to say anything? The international community? bugger them! (6)” His language may be coarse, but the cynicism of the butcher of Kurdistan, later promoted governor of Kuwait and subsequently minister of defence, was fully justified.

Iraq was then seen as a secular bulwark against the Islamic regime in Teheran. It had the support of East and West and of the whole Arab world except Syria. All the Western countries were supplying it with arms and funds. France was particularly zealous in this respect. Not content with selling Mirages and helicopters to Iraq, it even lent the regime Super Etendard aircraft in the middle of its war with Iran. Germany supplied Baghdad with a large part of the technology required for the production of chemical weapons. And in an unusual display of East-West military cooperation, German engineers enhanced the performance of the Scud aircraft which Iraq had obtained from the Soviet Union, increasing their range so that they could strike at Teheran and other distant Iranian cities.

Despite the enormous public outrage at the gas attack on Halabja, France, which is a depositary of the Geneva Convention of 1925, confined itself to an enigmatic communiqué condemning the use of chemical weapons anywhere in the world. The UN dispatched Colonel Dominguez, a Spanish military expert, to the scene. In a report published on 26 April 1988, he confined himself to recording that chemical weapons had been used once again both in Iran and in Iraq and that the number of civilian victims was increasing (7). On the same day the UN Secretary-General stated that, with respect to both the weapons themselves and those who were using them, it was difficult to determine the nationalities involved.

Clearly, Iraq’s powerful allies did not want Baghdad condemned. In August 1988 the United Nations Sub-Committee on Human Rights voted by 11 votes to 8 not to condemn Iraq for human rights violations. Only the Scandinavian countries, Australia and Canada, together with bodies like the European Parliament and the Socialist International, saved their honour by clearly condemning Iraq.

Things did not begin to change until the end of the Iraq-Iran conflict and the influx into Turkey in September 1988 of refugees fleeing a new chemical weapons offensive. On 7 September France issued a communiqué in which President Mitterrand expressed concern at information received about the use of chemical weapons and other means of repression against the Kurdish population in Iraq. He added that he had no wish to interfere in Iraq’s internal affairs, but the bonds of friendship between Iraq and France were even more reason to make his feelings known. In America, a resolution urging sanctions against Iraq was tabled by Senator Claiborne D. Pell and passed by both Houses of Congress. It was vetoed by President Bush. The White House even granted Baghdad a further loan of a billion dollars.

It was not until Iraq occupied the oil-rich emirate of Kuwait in August 1990 that Saddam Hussein became America’s bogeyman, referred to by George Bush as a new Hitler. Still useful, however, he survived the Gulf war. American troops did nothing to overturn the Iraqi dictator. And they stood idly by in the spring of 1991 while his presidential guard ruthlessly suppressed the popular uprising for which the United States’ president had himself called.

http://mondediplo.com/1998/03/04iraqkn

Now if I wanted to i could take a more adversarial approach and refute your claims even as they stand.

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want the whole story...

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/saddam/2004/1222halabja.htm

Now that throw another light on it doesn't it. I prefer to stick to the facts.  You however have a problem of what anti-US argument you take.  Muslims...  always the victim always contradictory.

I think in terms of support for Nazism, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem helping Himmler to raise a Muslim SS unit, probably trumps Rumsfeld supporting Saddam.

Just saying.

You have a very strange reality Les, my Muslim Turtle. 
It's almost a mental handicap. 


Comprehension and world politics just aint your bag. 

Calanen wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 6:00pm:



And Prescott Bush sent millions to the Nazi's to fund their war machine. Not to mention Henry Ford.

So does this mean Americans supported the Nazi's?