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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7519 Gender:	Respect for islam - by law Jan 30^th, 2009 at 9:42pm I respect people of any and every religion , including atheism, who do not push their theological views upon me by force, etc.. As for islam the experience shows that it is unspeakable thing, for example even hard core islamist like abu prefers to speak about Talmud rather then its cheap and erroneous imitation known as ...koran.
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Reply #1 - Jan 30^th, 2009 at 9:59pm

I notice Muslims get justifiably upset when other people (eg Yadda and Sprint) claim to know better than they do what Islam is all about and interpret the Koran themselves, claiming the interpretation represents the beliefs of actual Muslims. But then they will happily turn around and insist they know better than Christians or Jews what Christianity or Judaism is all about. If anything, it makes me doubt his ability to gauge what Islam is really about when he claims the same sort of authority on Christianity and Judaism.

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Reply #2 - Jan 31^st, 2009 at 7:33am

freediver wrote on Jan 30^th, 2009 at 9:59pm:

I notice Muslims get justifiably upset when other people (eg Yadda and Sprint) claim to know better than they do what Islam is all about and interpret the Koran themselves, claiming the interpretation represents the beliefs of actual Muslims. But then they will happily turn around and insist they know better than Christians or Jews what Christianity or Judaism is all about. If anything, it makes me doubt his ability to gauge what Islam is really about when he claims the same sort of authority on Christianity and Judaism.

lol...yeah right. Whats their to get upset about. Yadda and sprint no nothing, they just cut and paste whatever anti-material they can find on the net, and you, being the bigot you are, will swallow it readily.

Yadda and sprint are actually rather clueless..they come across as pretty dumb to be honest, and it doesn't surprise me at all that you hang on every word they say.

Might be why no one takes you seriously anymore. How does it feel being considered a joke on your own forum. Thats gotta hurt. Cheesy

You know what they say..the blind leading the blind. Cheesy

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Reply #3 - Jan 31^st, 2009 at 10:28pm

Lestat wrote on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 7:33am:

freediver wrote on Jan 30^th, 2009 at 9:59pm:

I notice Muslims get justifiably upset when other people (eg Yadda and Sprint) claim to know better than they do what Islam is all about and interpret the Koran themselves, claiming the interpretation represents the beliefs of actual Muslims. But then they will happily turn around and insist they know better than Christians or Jews what Christianity or Judaism is all about. If anything, it makes me doubt his ability to gauge what Islam is really about when he claims the same sort of authority on Christianity and Judaism.

lol...yeah right. Whats their to get upset about. Yadda and sprint no nothing, they just cut and paste whatever anti-material they can find on the net, and you, being the bigot you are, will swallow it readily.

Yadda and sprint are actually rather clueless..they come across as pretty dumb to be honest, and it doesn't surprise me at all that you hang on every word they say.

Might be why no one takes you seriously anymore. How does it feel being considered a joke on your own forum. Thats gotta hurt. Cheesy

You know what they say..the blind leading the blind. Cheesy

It is the millions like you who make today's islam simultaneously dangerous and ridiculous.

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Reply #5 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 8:29pm

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The Muslims in Australia aren't hurting you jfk? Don't speak about them that way. It's only the extreme right whingers who have a problem with them.

As was explained in another thread - the west didn't have a problem with Muslims either until a couple of decades ago - they were great buddies with them remember - until we began breaking international agreements.

If you find the behaviour of Muslims in the ME abhorrent, perhaps it's because they've been lied to and betrayed by the UK & the US consistently over a number of decades. They were once considered very honourable and far ahead of us in their culture and progress. If they're angry now - who can blame them and we know which group of nations exacerbated their fury in the last decade.

So, Mantra, the Australian girls who were raped by the muslim gang wern't hurt and when they testified in court against the islamic scam they did it because they were right wingers?

Did you teach your child when raped just to close here eyes and think about mohamed the paedophile?

Shame on you Mantra

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Reply #6 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 8:47pm

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So, Mantra, the Australian girls who were raped by the muslim gang wern't hurt and when they testified in court against the islamic scam they did it because they were right wingers?

Did you teach your child when raped just to close here eyes and think about mohamed the paedophile?

Shame on you Mantra

Are you serious Tallow? Where did I write that I condoned rape? Yes those boys were very bad and they've been locked away for decades, but there have been plenty of rapes and murders committed by Aussie atheist males also. Have you forgotten Anita Cobby and Janine Baldwin already amongst hundreds of others?

All I'm trying to say is that you are judging a whole group of people by a few bad apples and we have plenty of rottenness in our society coming from all cultures, ethnicities and religions.

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Reply #7 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 8:55pm

mantra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 8:47pm:

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So, Mantra, the Australian girls who were raped by the muslim gang wern't hurt and when they testified in court against the islamic scam they did it because they were right wingers?

Did you teach your child when raped just to close here eyes and think about mohamed the paedophile?

Shame on you Mantra

Are you serious Tallow? Where did I write that I condoned rape? Yes those boys were very bad and they've been locked away for decades, but there have been plenty of rapes and murders committed by Aussie atheist males also. Have you forgotten Anita Cobby and Janine Baldwin already amongst hundreds of others?

All I'm trying to say is that you are judging a whole group of people by a few bad apples and we have plenty of rottenness in our society coming from all cultures, ethnicities and religions.

I am as serious as you are.
Horrible rape of Anita was not motivated by a religion and none of religious leaders tried to condone it like it was in the case of islamic rape.

As yo can see I am not judging a whole group of people by a few bad apples but by the culture of islam where they are encouraged to rape own members of the family.

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Reply #9 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 9:05pm

I'm an atheist Grendel, with Christian leanings. Islam doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, but I can see why the radicals behave the way they do at times.

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Horrible rape of Anita was not motivated by a religion and none of religious leaders tried to condone it like it was in the case of islamic rape.

Whatever Tallow. Did you ever wonder why Anita was raped? Perhaps it was because a bunch of homeless feral little boys were rejected by our "Christian" society. Of course that's no excuse - but by the very existence of these dysfunctional retarded & dangerous kids, it shows how bereft our society is at times.

No matter how much you whinge about Muslims - they are here to stay. Most of them are moderates. There is only a small proportion that you have to be concerned about Tallow and I'm sure they don't know where you live.

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Reply #10 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 9:13pm

mantra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 9:05pm:

I'm an atheist Grendel, with Christian leanings. Islam doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, but I can see why the radicals behave the way they do at times.

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Horrible rape of Anita was not motivated by a religion and none of religious leaders tried to condone it like it was in the case of islamic rape.

Whatever Tallow. Did you ever wonder why Anita was raped? Perhaps it was because a bunch of homeless feral little boys were rejected by our "Christian" society. Of course that's no excuse - but by the very existence of these dysfunctional retarded & dangerous kids, it shows how bereft our society is at times.

No matter how much you whinge about Muslims - they are here to stay. Most of them are moderates. There is only a small proportion that you have to be concerned about Tallow and I'm sure they don't know where you live.

They were not " homeless feral little boys were rejected by our "Christian" society", stop inventing "facts".

The "most" of them on this forum are not moderates at all so stop making excuses for rapists apologists.

Mantra, do they know where you live? May be it explains why you are so scared to write the truth?

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Reply #11 - Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 6:43am

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Might be why no one takes you seriously anymore. How does it feel being considered a joke on your own forum. Thats gotta hurt.

I don't see why. If you and 100, no, say 1 million muslims got together and passed a fatwa that I was a 'joke', whether on my own forum or in my kitchen - I might just look up from my morning coffee for a nanosecond while I then went back to reading the sports pages.

That's how much it would 'hurt'.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Reply #12 - Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 8:47am

No matter how much you whinge about Muslims - they are here to stay. Most of them are moderates. There is only a small proportion that you have to be concerned about Tallow and I'm sure they don't know where you live.

The moderates also cause concern. Abu claims that his interpretation represents the vast majority of Muslims, and that there are more Muslims who are more extreme than him (eg wahabis, Taliban) than more progressive. That is why so many Australian clerics get in trouble with the media. You wouldn't get lunatics like that in charge of Mosques unless they had the support of the broader Muslim community.

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Reply #13 - Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 10:55pm

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No matter how much you whinge about Muslims - they are here to stay. Most of them are moderates. There is only a small proportion that you have to be concerned about Tallow and I'm sure they don't know where you live

Exactly how you do you define - 'moderate' in Islam. There might be moderate people in Islam, who dont care enough to do anything about the imperatives of the faith - for now. The majority of muslims are engaged in the stealth jihad, white anting our heritage, traditions, values and institutions so they can be like sick old men and more easily destroyed. Such muslims see straight out terror as counter productive, but would prefer the whole slowly slowly termite destruction thing happen instead. The aim is the same, just the means are different.

But its a bit like when a sports team is losing. It has less fans.

If it starts winning, it has more fans. You will find that the 'moderates' pass around the ammunition to their fanatical brothers once the bullets start flying.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Reply #14 - Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 10:59pm

freediver wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 8:47am:

No matter how much you whinge about Muslims - they are here to stay. Most of them are moderates. There is only a small proportion that you have to be concerned about Tallow and I'm sure they don't know where you live.

The moderates also cause concern. Abu claims that his interpretation represents the vast majority of Muslims, and that there are more Muslims who are more extreme than him (eg wahabis, Taliban) than more progressive. That is why so many Australian clerics get in trouble with the media. You wouldn't get lunatics like that in charge of Mosques unless they had the support of the broader Muslim community.

There is no muslims where I live so I make my judgment about their ideology from ravings of abu and lestsat. I'm also sure that if them and mad muslim clerics keep carrying on with their circus behaviour majority of westerners will make sure that muslims will not stay in the West for too long unless they modernise and moderate the islamic ideology.

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