Calanen wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 8:42am:


Olmert, Livi and numerous IDF spokesman stated numerous times the different goals and aims which they were hoping to achieve during this operation.

Yet they achieved none.

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 8:58am:


Are you serious? Are you really this dumb  fd or are you pretending. Can't you read?

I've listed a number of the stated goals. One which was repeatedly numerous times was to stop the rocket attacks from Gaza.

Another was to weaken Hamas politically in Gaza.

Livi also mentioned numerous times that they wanted to 'change the situation in Gaza'....which would imply the removal of Hamas and re-establishment of the PA in Gaza.

Seriously...stop acting so dumb, and name one achieved goal by the Israeli's during this operation.

fd, those were all goals stated by Israel in many different press releases, stop acting so ignorant on the matter now.

Anyway I can help you out if you like, they achieved one of the stated goals of Zionism which is to reduce the Arab population, and increase the Jewish population of Palestine.

fd, since you've repeated so many of their other propaganda lines word for word throughout the duration of the conflict, one would assume you also took the time to listen to their stated goals as well? which were usually woven into the exact same press releases.

freediver wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 10:02am:


Thats ok Freediver, we  understand. You cannot answer, hence your playing dumb, and answering a question with a question.

Are you honestly saying that you have never heard or read any stated goals by any Israeli minister, spokesman, or anyone connected to the IDF govt or military?

Be honest.

A tactic of yours which we have become use to. It is telling that after 4 pages you are still unable to name one goal acheived by Israel. Not one.

There are plenty examples of Israeli leaders stating their goals...yet you cannot name one which was actually achieved, and are playing games to cover this up.

And you still insist that Hamas were the losers.

Thats ok..we get it....if anyone needed more evidence of why you are considered a joke and no one takes you seriously....they need look no further.

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Yet you are still unable to name one goal stated by Israel. Perhaps we should start there eh?

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Neither can you, apparently.

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They got their arses kicked. You have to shift the goal posts an absurdly long way before you can claim victory for Hamas. You rpetty much have to change the definition of victory to getting your arse kicked. That doesn't seem to be a problem for them.

Lestat wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 10:07am:

Do you consider them winners in the way many Arabs considered Nassar to be a winner even after his hilarious and darkly comedic loss in the 6 days war?

Hamas do not have welfare of the Palestinian people and nation at heart, they simply crave war all the time. Eternal violent Jihad. They will cease on Palestinian land only when there is none left to fight on. But then they'll have won in their minds - They will have an entire displaced people to abuse as murderer/suicide cases in the cause of Islamism.