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Reply #150 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 8:35am
 
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We see the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan today, the resistance fighters routinely report shooting down helicopters, the US deny it, then later claim it was friendly fire, or an accident. They have no choice, their citizens won't support a war if too many of their sons and daughters are dying in it.


The casualties in Iraq are a matter of public record. So are you saying there are dead soldiers, not on the official lists? Maybe the odd black ops person (and we'd be talking single digits). Do you think someone could die and they would tell the family, dont claim your death benefits, pretend he's alive - dont have a funeral, because its in the interests of national security?

This is just silly stuff. US casualties are documented in the most minute detail. Its the jihadis that are rubbery, because no records are kept.
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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.
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Reply #151 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 9:30am
 
Lestat wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:58pm:
Israel will be destroyed. It is inevitable, the Palestinian population growth will ensure this. Israel know this, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They cannot annex the occupied territories because this will result in jews being a minority within Israel in less then 50 years.


You're referring to the exploitation of the hole in the heart of the democratic status quo whereby its enemies outbreed its defenders and destroy it from within. You suggest there will be (to coin a new Bushism) a 'Fijification' of Israel. The Fijians, having acted too late, are now condemned to endless coups to ensure native Fijian dominance.

Thankfully Israel has a rocket-lobbing charity organisation on its side that gives it options when dealing with the possibility of the covert enemy.

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Reply #152 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:01am
 
Lestat wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:58pm:
Israel will be destroyed.
It is inevitable, the Palestinian population growth will ensure this. Israel know this, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They cannot annex the occupied territories because this will result in jews being a minority within Israel in less then 50 years. Yet they do not want to give up the occupied territories, as deep down, they feel that the westbank is a part of Greater Eretz...




Lestat,

Wow!

You seem very certain of that.

But, but, but,
......i thought that all of you devout muslims believed in God?



Lestat, you should read....
Ezekiel 35

God himself says he is there in Israel.....

".....Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:....."


Don't worry Lestat, i'm just a crazy believer.

You know, one of those ppl who knows that it is muslims who are the real unbelievers in God.





"Are muslims God's people?"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226445495/0#0




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Reply #153 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:03am
 
"It is inevitable, the Palestinian population growth will ensure this. Israel know this, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place." (c) by Lestat

In his threat against Israel Lestat also described the threat of muslims against any democratic country where muslims appear.
That is why muslem immigration should be stopped and their rabbit tactics should be dealt with immediately.
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Reply #154 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:34am
 
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That is why muslem immigration should be stopped and their rabbit tactics should be dealt with immediately.


I agree that this tactic is an utter disgrace. It shows how far muslim societies wil go in an attempt to usurp some type of supremacy.
All the while, the compassionate west provides humanitarian aid for their dumbass tactics in a world that needs a smaller more self-sufficient population.
It's going to come down to us or them in the end.
The longer this problem festers, the worse it will get, so there's no use delaying the inevitable.





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Reply #155 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:39am
 

mass casteration and sterilisation ??
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Reply #156 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:50am
 
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mass casteration and sterilisation ??


Ideally yes  Grin

But limtations could be put into place similar to China.
ie: Less aid on a graduating scale for the more children they have.
I'd prefer harsher methods.
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Reply #157 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 11:23am
 

amadd - if they have any children, they don't need any aid.

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Reply #158 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 7:38pm
 
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Ideally yes  Grin

But limtations could be put into place similar to China.
ie: Less aid on a graduating scale for the more children they have.
I'd prefer harsher methods.


Not unlike your atheist friends you are an inhuman monster. You would do your fellow atheists, Stalin, Mao et al. proud.
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Reply #159 - Jan 23rd, 2009 at 1:57am
 
Did Hamas achieve a great victory? Of course – at least in its own mind. It has, it believes, advanced its objective in making "death an industry of the Palestinian people"

Israel has no greater friend and ally than Hamas – the rocket-lobbing ‘charity’ organization of death.

You could almost imagine a Pythonesque debate breaking out in Israeli coffee shops - "What have the Hamas ever done for us?"
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Reply #160 - Jan 23rd, 2009 at 8:52am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 23rd, 2009 at 1:57am:
Did Hamas achieve a great victory? Of course – at least in its own mind. It has, it believes, advanced its objective in making "death an industry of the Palestinian people"

Israel has no greater friend and ally than Hamas – the rocket-lobbing ‘charity’ organization of death.

You could almost imagine a Pythonesque debate breaking out in Israeli coffee shops - "What have the Hamas ever done for us?"


Fact is Helian...death was made an industry for the Palestinians by the Israeli's...long before Hamas even existed.

Or do you honsestly believe that Palestinians were not being murdered by Israel before the creation of Hamas.

Tell me Helian, given that Hamas only emerged in the 90's....who is your scapegoat for the other 50 odd years of massacres and persecution.

Do you hold Israel responsible at all? Ever?
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Reply #161 - Jan 23rd, 2009 at 8:54am
 
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #162 - Jan 23rd, 2009 at 8:54am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:01am:
Lestat wrote on Jan 21st, 2009 at 7:58pm:
Israel will be destroyed.
It is inevitable, the Palestinian population growth will ensure this. Israel know this, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They cannot annex the occupied territories because this will result in jews being a minority within Israel in less then 50 years. Yet they do not want to give up the occupied territories, as deep down, they feel that the westbank is a part of Greater Eretz...




Lestat,

Wow!

You seem very certain of that.

But, but, but,
......i thought that all of you devout muslims believed in God?



Lestat, you should read....
Ezekiel 35

God himself says he is there in Israel.....

".....Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:....."


Don't worry Lestat, i'm just a crazy believer.

You know, one of those ppl who knows that it is muslims who are the real unbelievers in God.





"Are muslims God's people?"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226445495/0#0






What a surprise...another garbage cut and paste from a garbage poster.

And its ironiic isn't it, the same Christian posters who continuously argue that the Old testement is to be ignored, and  the New testement is what they follow....is now quoting the Old testement.

Your right about one thing Yadda...You are crazy. The fact that you cannot string together one coherrent sentence is evidence of this.
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Reply #163 - Jan 23rd, 2009 at 8:55am
 
Amadd wrote on Jan 22nd, 2009 at 10:34am:
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That is why muslem immigration should be stopped and their rabbit tactics should be dealt with immediately.


I agree that this tactic is an utter disgrace. It shows how far muslim societies wil go in an attempt to usurp some type of supremacy.
All the while, the compassionate west provides humanitarian aid for their dumbass tactics in a world that needs a smaller more self-sufficient population.
It's going to come down to us or them in the end.
The longer this problem festers, the worse it will get, so there's no use delaying the inevitable.




I agree...having children and raising families is just a despicable act.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #164 - Jan 23rd, 2009 at 9:01am
 
ROTFLMAO at Muslim braindead ignorance.

The Jewish God the Christian God and YOUR God are (supposedly) the same God...  the NT is about the TEACHINGS of Christ.  The OT is about Jewish history and prophecy...  so yes contextually it is correct to quote it in some instances.

Derrrrr.....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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