Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 9:52pm:


It was actually Hezbollah that I described as that...but hey, I won't give you a hard time about that cause I seriously suspect you may be mentally ill.

Hang in there....

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So why isn't Hamas a laughing stock for claiming a great victory over Israel?

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So you think Hams 'held off' Israel, as opposed to hiding under their beds?

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They care about revenge, and are willing to sacrifice their brothers, sisters, mothers, sons etc for it, even if it is futile.

Lestat wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 8:48pm:


Both goals were achived.
1 There are no more rocket attacks by hamas
2 Even hardened hamas supporters fail to answer

You proved it yourself.

tallowood wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 10:08pm:


BWAHAHAHAAH

Are you serious?

Hamas fired 20 rockets on the day that Israel announced its unilateral ceasefire

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

Hamas did not try for victory...they were defending an act of agression from Israel. But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your fantasies.

Lestat, you just proved it again.

You must be a Zionist agent trying to disrcedit islam not that it needs to the way it is now

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 20^th, 2009 at 10:57pm:


haha.

Hamas haven't gone anywhere Sprint. They are still in power, and if you had read the article I posted (from a jew mind you), you would know this.

Here...I know this makes a liar of you..but please, don't take it personal. I am just trying to do the right thing and educate you.

"Hamas of course has declared "victory," which is overstating things. Hamas' "victory" was by default since its only goal was to survive the IDF beating. It achieved this not due to its might but because the IDF will not be launching the third stage of its attack, which would have devastated Hamas.

One real Hamas victory, though, is the international legitimacy the group received during the past few weeks. According to WND's Hamas sources, the group was in direct contact with Italy, France, the EU and U.N. representatives, many of whom, the sources said, expressed willingness to bring Hamas into the fold and out from isolation.

In the outcome of this war, a clear winner or loser cannot be determined. Both sides gained and lost. But if we are to judge based on which side achieved its objectives, Israel clearly did not win."

Lestat.

I believe in the Palestinian right to statehood and the right of Palestinians to maintain their claims to land. I believe in the right of Kurdistan to exist (would that the Muslim countries of Iran, Iraq and Turkey agree) and I also believe in the right of Israel to exist.

I believe that armed resistance against Israel is utterly futile. And I believe those who attempt to advance the Palestinian cause through violence will bring only death and loss to the Palestinians.

They’ll lose and they’ll lose big.

They’ll lose the opportunity to live in peace, the opportunity to work towards negotiating with Israel on the basis of mutual trust and respect, the opportunity to see their children grow up with realizable aspirations and they will lose the opportunity for a state. Armed resistance will guarantee them the opportunity to witness their childrens’ death from collateral damage or from dismemberment having blown themselves to bits in a deluded attempt to retake the untakeable.

The Salvation Army, Amnesty International are what we think of when asked to imagine a humanitarian organization. The IRA, ETA or Hamas are what most of us imagine as examples when asked to name an organization that employs violence as its key strategy for attaining its goals. Nearly every country in the world will not deal with Hamas, including all fellow Arab nations (except Iran and Syria) other than to pay lip service.

That a Palestinian war against Israel is futile is easily understood. The state of Israel, a nuclear power, will never be dismantled nor abandoned by the democracies, not even by those that criticize Israel most severely. Not ever.

One by one and sooner or later all Arab nations will sign peace treaties and accords with Israel and without Palestinian visionaries of peace, whose love for the peaceful aspirations of their own people is greater than their need to see them destroyed in aid of suicidal delusions, they will be left with nothing but war and death.

And Islamists, of course, know this. They may give blankets and food to the needy Palestinian… but they ask in return for his life to be sacrificed in the cause of Israel’s destruction and in the cause of pernicious religio-politics.