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Hamas claims great victory
Jan 19th, 2009 at 8:39am
 
As Hamas congratulated Palestinians on their "victory" from mosque loudspeakers on Sunday, shell-shocked residents surveyed the debris of the deadliest offensive ever launched by Israel on Gaza.


"We congratulate all the Palestinian people after the victory in the fight with the enemy," bellowed a voice from a Hamas mosque in central Gaza City.

Yahia Karin, a 54-year-old resident of city's southern neighbourhood of Zeitun, found little to cheer about -- his home was reduced to rubble during the 22-day Israeli offensive which killed at least 1,300 Palestinians.

"I came to see my home, but as you can see, there is no home here anymore," Karin said, pointing to the charred ruins of his residence.

Some of the heaviest clashes between Israeli troops and Hamas fighters occurred in his neighbourhood -- and the scars of war are everywhere to be seen.


Grin Grin Grin
If this is victory, then I'd hate to see their definition of defeat.
And surprise surprise, the "victory" anouncement came from a central mosque.
When will people wake up to these lowlife barbarians?


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Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 9:25am
 
Well it was expected.
Even if there was only one Hamas terrorist left and no Palestinians they'd still call it a victory.
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Reply #2 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 10:21am
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 9:25am:
Well it was expected.
Even if there was only one Hamas terrorist left and no Palestinians they'd still call it a victory.





Grendel,

Exactly correct.




And the next time abu, or one of his brothers on this forum, insists on how good it was, in the distant past, for Jews and Christians to live under ISLAM's 'protection' [quoting ISLAMIC historical sources] just remember today again!!!, and how the aftermath of this conflict in Gaza will be recorded by muslims.

How muslims are already recording their history, how Hamas in 2009, won a great victory over the Zionists.





ISLAM so hates TRUTH.

The ISLAMISTS prolly can't wait for the day when they take over the world, and they can finally record the 'truth' of the history of 'Palestine'.

ISLAM's history would proudly declare how the muslim armies whooped the Jews arssxs back in 1948!!

The coming victory of ISLAM.

Dream about it abu.

LOL

Coz that is all it is.

Vanity & pride.iProverbs 22:8
He that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity: and the rod of his anger shall fail.





Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023681.php#c602782



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #3 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 11:12am
 

Well, over 1000 were "martyred, how much of a victory do you all want !!!!!!!!!

that's what happens when islamics get control.
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Reply #4 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 12:04pm
 
Obviously Israel has been flip flopping almost daily in regards to its stated aims with this offensive, however, the fact is not one of these aims have been achieved.

The war did not stop rocket firing, did not end Hamas rule in Gaza and did not even succeed to free captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. Hamas has been strengthened, and Abass and his impotent PA has lost credibility amongst Palestinians, and has in fact been weakened by this affair. 

So why don't you tell us once again, besides killing hundreds of civilians, including children (which I understand for some you, is something that the Israeli's can be proud of), what exactly has Israel achieved?

Hamas on the other hand has quite clearly won the propaganda war, and the world has seen Israel for the murderous zionist pigs they are.

The fact that Hamas was able to resist the 4th most powerful military in the world, ensuring that Israel did not achieve its stragic goals, is in itself a victory for Hamas.

Then again, I don't expect dimwits like you to understand, who see war like some sort of footy match, where the victors are the ones who killed more people.

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Reply #5 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:16pm
 
Lestat, you may wish more victories like that to hamas, it is fine by me. How many victories exactly? Take number of palestinians who support hamas murderers, divide it by number of palestinians sacrificed for hamas vanity and you will get number of such victories that hamas need.

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Reply #6 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:21pm
 

lestat - hamas rule over rubble and a broken people.
Israel will attack again if rockets come over.
Israel drove in as far as they wanted and quashed hamas.

The response from every other country in the world was muted.
Noones interested in those who vote in terrorists.
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Reply #7 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:23pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:16pm:
Lestat, you may wish more victories like that to hamas, it is fine by me. How many victories exactly? Take number of palestinians who support hamas murderers, divide it by number of palestinians sacrificed for hamas vanity and you will get number of such victories that hamas need.



Well done Tallo...you failed to address any of the issues I raised, and once again provided nothing, in addition to announcing to the world what we already has suspected.

However, on the slight miracle that you may actually contribute something meaningful for once, I'll ask again.

What exactly has Israel achieved?


On a side note, have you discovered the meaning of the word 'unilateral' yet? Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:24pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:21pm:
lestat - hamas rule over rubble and a broken people.
Israel will attack again if rockets come over.
Israel drove in as far as they wanted and quashed hamas.

The response from every other country in the world was muted.
Noones interested in those who vote in terrorists.


I'll ask again, which of Israels stated goals, have they achieved?
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Reply #9 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:32pm
 
hamas victory ??? What did they win ?

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....which more than 1300 Palestinians were killed. Ten Israeli soldiers and three civilians also died.

In Gaza, families began emerging from their places of hiding, including U.N. school compounds where some 45,000 people sought refuge during the fighting, and returning to their homes - some only to find them damaged or destroyed.

According to the Palestinian Statistics Bureau, 4000 residential buildings were reduced to rubble during the conflict. Western diplomats have said it could cost at least $1.6 billion to repair the infrastructure damage in Gaza. .........

........As scores of bodies of Hamas fighters were recovered from suddenly quiet urban battlefields on Sunday, Gaza medical officials said about 700 of the 1300 dead were civilians.


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http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24930381-5003402,00.html
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Reply #10 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:38pm
 
If this has ended for the time being, then I suppose it will be expected that the infidels go in there and repair the damage or provide the funds to do so.







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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:32pm:
hamas victory ??? What did they win ?

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....which more than 1300 Palestinians were killed. Ten Israeli soldiers and three civilians also died.

In Gaza, families began emerging from their places of hiding, including U.N. school compounds where some 45,000 people sought refuge during the fighting, and returning to their homes - some only to find them damaged or destroyed.

According to the Palestinian Statistics Bureau, 4000 residential buildings were reduced to rubble during the conflict. Western diplomats have said it could cost at least $1.6 billion to repair the infrastructure damage in Gaza. .........

........As scores of bodies of Hamas fighters were recovered from suddenly quiet urban battlefields on Sunday, Gaza medical officials said about 700 of the 1300 dead were civilians.


http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6446005,00.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24930381-5003402,00.html


I'll ask you a third time Sprint...which of Israel's stated goals did they achieve.

The fact that you have refused to answer this tells me, that you can't or don't want to answer. Therefore, unless you can come up with just one stated Israeli goal which they in fact did achieve, I will assume that you agree with me and that Israel did not actually achieve what they set out to do.

And given this fact, therefore the logical conclusion that any logical person can come to (yes I know, that rules out quite a few of you).

You ask what did Hamas win? It was their resistance denied Israel what they had set out to do...hence Israel did not achieve its goals when it started this operation.

This is what Hamas won.

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Reply #12 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:41pm
 
Amadd wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:38pm:
If this has ended for the time being, then I suppose it will be expected that the infidels go in there and repair the damage or provide the funds to do so.



Do you realise that there are Palestinian Christians...or has your bigotry blinded you to this fact?
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Reply #13 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:46pm
 
Oh praise be to Allah. He bringeth death, suffering, misery and rubble.....lots and lots of rubble.

Hamas are a laughing stock as far as I'm concerned.



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Reply #14 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:47pm
 
Lestat wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:23pm:
tallowood wrote on Jan 19th, 2009 at 2:16pm:
Lestat, you may wish more victories like that to hamas, it is fine by me. How many victories exactly? Take number of palestinians who support hamas murderers, divide it by number of palestinians sacrificed for hamas vanity and you will get number of such victories that hamas need.

Well done Tallo...you failed to address any of the issues I raised, and once again provided nothing, in addition to announcing to the world what we already has suspected.

However, on the slight miracle that you may actually contribute something meaningful for once, I'll ask again.
What exactly has Israel achieved?
On a side note, have you discovered the meaning of the word 'unilateral' yet? Cheesy


I have addressed the main issue the self defeating vanity of islamists.

As for Israel ... they achieved what they needed to achieve.: rocket attacks stopped, hamas leadership was exposed as child killers and punished accordingly by blowing them in bunkers where they hide, resupply of hamas with weapons get severely hampered by destruction of smuggling tunnels.

More then that ordinary palestinians started ask questions about sanity of their murderous hamas masters.

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But some Palestinians had hard questions for their elected leaders, whose decision to abandon a six-month truce and step up rocket fire on Israel gave the Israelis a pretext to unleash a withering onslaught that killed 1,300 people and wounded 5,300
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