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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: ISLAM must CHANGE Reply #45 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 6:16pm BTW Lestat... pregnancy of Australian women at 15 is not common at all. just another lie from the great brain-washed.
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Reply #46 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:43pm

locutius wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 3:28pm:

With any luck, all these silly beliefs is supernatural beings that have a chosen few, have ridiculious laws and require prostration and grovelling will disappear.

Mozza, I'm sure you are raising your children with love and care and intelligence.

What are you suggesting Locuitus? That only non-muslims raise their children with love and care.

Your beginning to regularly express your bigotry, I take it that the truth always comes out.

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Reply #47 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:56pm

Lestat, how dumb are you?

Anyone with slight intelligence would be able to see locutius was writing to mozzaok in reference to your slur against him and the way non-Muslims raise their kids and he was saying he is sure that mozza is doing a good job with his children. He did not write in that post the Muslims raise their children wrong.

Fool.

I recall you writing that before you became so religious that you used to drink, take drugs, have lots of sex (uglies I bet) and other assorted things.

Are you saying your upbringing turned you in to the horrible person (by your standards) that you turned out to be? Do you hate your parents?

Why would mozza want to meet you? You're an idiot.

Also Lestat, by your own admission, you are perverted. You have written that all males would have a hard time with their impulses when on a beach with women in swim wear. And you are male. You are wrong about your assumption about everyone however.

Lestat, you are an idiotic pervert.

Or maybe you are anti-Muslim and fake it to try and make Islam look bad. If that is the case, pretty smart, it's working. You are helping make Muslims look bad.

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Reply #48 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:57pm

Lestat wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:43pm:

locutius wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 3:28pm:

With any luck, all these silly beliefs is supernatural beings that have a chosen few, have ridiculious laws and require prostration and grovelling will disappear.

Mozza, I'm sure you are raising your children with love and care and intelligence.

What are you suggesting Locuitus? That only non-muslims raise their children with love and care.

Your beginning to regularly express your bigotry, I take it that the truth always comes out.

How did you come to that conclusion with what I said Lestat?

Being called a bigot by you lacks complete credibility. Not because it may not be true according to your terms of reference. But because you've shown yourself to be one as well.

You've also done a fair bit of name calling today but using the word spastic is particularly disrespectful.

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Reply #49 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:58pm

gee Lestat... the word was depraved... ROTFLMAO not good for pedants to be caught out eh.

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The fact he brought someone elses family into the discussion in a derogative way is no invitation for you to do the same, exercise some common sense

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Oh I note you have as yet run away from my question... oh dear proved you disingenuos and a liar did it?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52103 At my desk.	Re: ISLAM must CHANGE Reply #50 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:06pm Gee, Lestat is really letting it all hang out tonight. Why don;t you say what you really think Les?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52103 At my desk.	Re: ISLAM must CHANGE Reply #51 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:07pm Great, Abu's turned up. Hopefully he can talk some sense into Les about the whole 'your daughter's a slut' thing.
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Reply #52 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:13pm

This thread is on the verge of being closed. Slander against anyone's family will NOT be tolerated here, by any side.

Just to make it quite clear, to the Muslim who slandered the chastity of a girl and to the bigots who tried to label it as the epitome of Islamicness, Islam STRICTLY forbids slandering of the chastity of a girl, and it is a crime, punishable by 80 lashes. There is no room for such behaviour in Islam, and any Muslim who does this, is clearly acting outside of Islamic dictates. It's not surprising though that the bigots here claim it to actually be an Islamic practise.

Actually, it's a practise quite common in Australian society, and in fact many Aussie males use expressions like slut, wench, whore etc. to refer to every single member of the fairer sex. I've witnessed this in many different varied social circles amongst Australian society, so don't try to deny it exiists, you all know it does. And today with the excessive focus on freedom of speech, Western society really has no problem with it anyway. However Islam is the complete opposite, it raised the women to a high rank of respect and honour, and slandering her chastity is a great transgression against her, her family and God.

I am still going through and deleting the references to this inappropriate incident, but I am thinking to just delete entire posts referring to it, as they contain no other benefit than to slander. Unless anyone has a compelling reason for why they should be kept.

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Reply #53 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:17pm

There is always value in leaving it there so people can see exactly what it is that is inappropriate. Otherwise Les might play the innocent victim once the evidence is gone. I always like to get people to at least concede they are wrong before deleting everything. It's more important to get people to understand and accept the rules than to hide the inappropriate content.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: ISLAM must CHANGE Reply #54 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:25pm That would be up to mozzaok, since he's the victim of it. So if he agrees, then I have no problem with it, although any bigoted attacks that attempt to equate this with standard Islamic belief will definitely be modified/deleted.
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Reply #55 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:27pm

Well there should be some fairness here - what about the comments Easel made in regard to Lestat.

Obviously Easel you have no regard for people's personal issues to bring them up and throw them in their face on a public board. It doesn't matter if a person talks about themselves - that's their prerogative - but what you've written is childish, personal and very very nasty.

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Reply #56 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:31pm

locutius wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:57pm:

How did you come to that conclusion with what I said Lestat?

Just asking a question Locuitus. Your post made clear implications...you can correct me if you think I am wrong.

locutius wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:57pm:

Being called a bigot by you lacks complete credibility. Not because it may not be true according to your terms of reference. But because you've shown yourself to be one as well.

Your correct with one thing..doesn't matter what I call you. Your posts reveal these things far more efficiently then any names I may or may not call you.

locutius wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:57pm:

You've also done a fair bit of name calling today but using the word spastic is particularly disrespectful.

If it looks like an apple, and it smells like an apple....

Besides, if being disrespectul is something you find offensive, then its amazing that you haven't spoken up earlier...oh right, depends who's doing the 'disrespecting' hey.

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Reply #57 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:36pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:25pm:

That would be up to mozzaok, since he's the victim of it. So if he agrees, then I have no problem with it, although any bigoted attacks that attempt to equate this with standard Islamic belief will definitely be modified/deleted.

Mozzoak isn't the victim of anything. I suggest you go back and all read my post again.

Mozzoak attacked muslims and the way we raise our children...I then used an 'off the cuff' remark that insinuates that Mozzoak should worry about raising his own children, before wanting to 'control' how we muslims raise ours.

I don't know Mozzoak, I don't even know know if he has a daughter, let alone what she is like, hence, it is ludicrous to believe or even imply that I was calling his daughter a slut.

Really, it doesn't surprise me that the resident bigots here have taken this and run with it, but really, its ludicrous some of the accusations that have been made in this thread.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 6721	Re: ISLAM must CHANGE Reply #58 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:37pm abu_rashid wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:13pm: ... Just to make it quite clear, to the Muslim who slandered the chastity of a girl and to the bigots who tried to label it as the epitome of Islamicness, ... Abu, you missed on muslim bigots in that phrase.
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Reply #59 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:38pm

mantra, if you had a half way decent memory, you would recall Lestat saying he has partaken in all the events he attributes to others as wrong, and even within his last revisit to this website, he has told people they are in the wrong in regards to behaviour which he himself presents.

He is a hypocrite of the biggest order who hates Western culture. He makes many a Muslim look bad, because he is so vocal about his cause, and would cause many people who are not exposed frequently to Muslims to think they are all like this.

Look at what Bin Laden did for Muslims the world over.

Quite clearly they are all not like him.

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