easel wrote on Jan 10^th, 2009 at 1:04pm:


Is that Michael Jackson or George Michael?

Think about this one, Jesus presented himself as the Jewish Messiah, who was rejected by the rulers, possibly because he was a threat to their authority.

Now, Messiah, I think that means Saviour.

Save them from what? Perhaps their old way of life, which they failed to realise, due to how ever many years of indoctrination, was evil in nature. Their rulers were abusers of power, hypocrites, slave drivers (after fleeing slavery, which they must have thought was bad in order to run from it) practice and condone all the evil they say they are against. Now you have the religious authority in Israel condoning the killing of civilians.

Then you have the Muslims, who from my understanding call Jesus a prophet, but when he returns, he is the Messiah. If he is the Messiah at any stage, then he was the Messiah at all stages. But then I've also heard that the Muslims are waiting for a Mahdi or 12th Imam or something to rule over the Muslims. Is that whom they imply Jesus will be when he returns? I find that unlikely. How can a preacher of tolerance, love, and turning the other cheek possibly gravitate towards the violence inherent within the Islamic faith?

And then, for all we know, it is a massive global set up, from the beginning, where religion and cults have always been used to control people, and Jesus saw through this, and for the good of humanity decided to present himself as the saviour, knowing full well that he would be killed, in order to try and free humanity from bondage. And then his teachings were abused, misused and misconstrued in order for more control over the general population.

Or maybe he really was the saviour in a religious sense and not a ethical sense, and knew this would happen, which is why he promised to come again.

easel wrote on Jan 10^th, 2009 at 1:04pm:



easel,

Err, you did ask!





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[What follows is my opinion. I can't prove these things, to you.]


If we [humans] are honest, we would admit that we know practically nothing about our 'reality',
.....and certainly, we know just 'as much', about ourselves,
.....as we do about our 'reality'!

I admit, i too do not know what reality is,
....but i can say confidently, i *do know*, 'this', is not it.

Atheists in the UK, recently started an advertising campaign on buses, with the slogan,
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

Someone once said,
....."People believe, what the want to believe."

Atheists want to believe, that there is no God.

I want to believe, in the God of Israel.

Within Christian and Jewish scripture, God states that it is his intention is to eventually reveal himself to all mankind,

We'll see.





JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM,
.....what do they represent?

If you have at all nurtured any spiritual discernment, please use it!

This 'life',
...is not LIFE!

Do you think that we have LIFE, here?

ROFLOL!!!!!

This 'life', is a pale shadow of real LIFE!

What would make me say such a thing, and how would i know this?

Well, i know that i am unable to prove anything, to another person on this matter.

So there is no point, in relating my [un-provable] experience[s], that brought me to know [...err, to have an opinion],
....that this 'life', is not LIFE.

But read on.....



Exodus 2:22
And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom: for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.

".....I have been a stranger in a strange land."

Parables and analogies such as this [above] are revealed throughout the OT scriptures.

We [all mankind] are all 'strangers' in a strange land.


Deuteronomy 31:23
"....for thou [Joshua] shalt bring the children of Israel into the land which I sware unto them."

The reference to a 'promised land' in the Bible, is another parable / analogy about our journey, here, in this 'reality'.

Hebrews 11:8
By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
9  By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:






THE PURPOSE IN OUR BEING HERE [in this 'life']

The Bible reveals that we are here, principally, to suffer the 'afflictions', of this life.

Or as the Buddhists would say,
....."To live, is to suffer."

If there is a God, is this cruel of God?

Why would a loving God allow, or require, us to suffer 'afflictions', in this life???....

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

"......and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."


'Israel', and indeed all of those [in this 'world'] who regard *themselves* as God's people, are tested in this life, with afflictions [hardships].

[If you would like to study how afflictions can affect us, read Job.]

How we respond to those afflictions that come upon us, and the choices we make as a consequence of our afflictions, reveals our worth, and reveals our spiritual 'discernment',
....or lack thereof.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee [Israel], but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.


We are spiritual creatures, [and we are] prisoners within these earthen bodies [within this 'reality'].

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2  And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.





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ISLAM

There is another [spiritual] player, besides God.

SATAN seeks to be the 'spoiler',

He is also the adversary [of those who seek God], and he is a 'wonderful' deceiver.

SATAN once lived in the LIGHT, but today, he is the prince of darkness.




What does ISLAM portray, about itself?

To the uninformed [non-muslim], ISLAM deceitfully *portrays* and presents itself, as a continuation of Judaism and Christianity.
.....this is a lie.

Muslims try to deceitfully convey an assurance [to uninformed non-muslims], that ISLAM has a common spiritual heritage, with Judaism and Christianity.
.....this is a lie.

And it is a fact that devout muslims always portray ISLAM, within the muslim community, NOT as an equal co-existing religion, or [merely] as a religion which 'evolved' from Judaism or Christianity,
.....but devout muslims assert that ISLAM is at the same time, both a replacement of, and a *repudiation* of, Judaism and Christianity.

Deceitfully, ISLAM seeks to beguile Christians and Jews with assurances such as,
....e.g. "We are all People of the Book."
.....this is a lie.

Within the muslim community, ISLAM insists that it will NEVER accept being an equal, co-existing religion, with Judaism and Christianity.

And ISLAM itself totally rejects the authority of Christian and Jewish scripture.
....only the Koran is Allah's 'inerrant' word.

To all of my muslim brothers and sisters, i will point out to you,
.....the Koran, came through the 'witness' of one man, Muhammad.

Deuteronomy 17:6
At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

And if you muslims, who seek to who imitate Muhammad, believe that you will go to Allah's paradise, as a reward for oppressing and killing your brothers/sisters in this flesh,
.....you have been duped, by SATAN!


One of my favourite Koran verses,

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.120

I urge all muslims, repent.

Seek your true God.



My God is not a cruel God.

I know that my God is wondrous and just.

Jeremiah 9:24
But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

".....For in these things I delight, saith the LORD.
.....LOVINGKINDNESS, JUDGMENT, and RIGHTEOUSNESS."

And my God is a God of TRUTH.

Deuteronomy 32:3
Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
4  He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Psalms 31:5
Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.

Job 12:16
With [God] is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.

If you truly wish to 'see' and comprehend what TRUTH is, seek it [TRUTH], and never reject it, when you recognise it!





ISLAM is a major plank in SATAN's attempt to foil God's plan.

But it has largely, already failed.


Revelation 12:1
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
.....9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12  Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13  And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14  And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15  And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

The "....woman clothed with the sun," [above] is/are God's ppl in this world.




1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.





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Yadda,

So we are all God's children, yes? Jesus claimed to be God, yet also the son of man. Therefore was he saying God is a human construct? I don't think so. God is also not man, but God, which by definition can be anything it so desires. When he was crucified he asked the Father to forgive the people who killed them, once again implying a higher power than he.

Also, did Jesus not say everything he has done we (you, was the terminology he used, assuming anyone who reads his word to be you) can do also?

No one says it better than Pat Condell:



Although I am conscious of not upsetting religious people (other than Muslims) because I am a great believer that Sikhs, Jews, Hindus, Christians will join in a great anti-jihad alliance.

I dont believe any of it however, and think it is infantile fairy tales for the weakminded.

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No it was because they had set up in the Temple doing business. Jesus went ballistic and turned over their stalls.

John 2:15 (Worldwide English (New Testament))

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