Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood (Read 6010 times)
abu_rashid
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Aussie Muslim

Posts: 8353
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #15 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:03pm
 

Perhaps if Israel would actually allow media into the Gaza strip, you might see pictures I guess.

I'm really curious, aren't you even remotely suspicious why all international media have been barred from there?
Back to top
 
abu_rashid  
IP Logged
 
easel
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 3120
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #16 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:03pm
 
Grendel,

Australia, America, UK, Russia, China, Israel, EVERYONE, has soldiers who don't wear uniforms to war.

Like abu linked, Israel dresses up in Hamas uniforms.

It's very common.
Back to top
 

I am from a foreign government. This is not a joke. I am authorised to investigate state and federal bodies including ASIO.
 
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #17 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:05pm
 
I'm sorry we all have uniforms...  what do you think we wear in the field easel...  you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
mantra
Gold Member
*****
Offline


ozpolitic.com

Posts: 10750
Gender: female
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #18 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:16pm
 
Quote:
Perhaps if Israel would actually allow media into the Gaza strip, you might see pictures I guess.I'm really curious, aren't you even remotely suspicious why all international media have been barred from there?


Sadly Abu - the average person and those in high places don't care about the mess inside Palestine or the real numbers dead.  The media - as far as I know has never been able to get anywhere near the Gaza strip after a massacre.

What they don't know they make up - or have been fed untruths from Israel which is passed from one international newspaper to another.


For example, we found that in 2004, at a time when 8 Israeli children and 176 Palestinian children were killed – a ratio of 1 to 22 – Times headlines and lead paragraphs reported on Israeli children’s deaths at a rate almost seven times greater than Palestinian children’s deaths.

A one-month sub-study indicated that this disparity grew even larger when the entire article was analyzed, with Israeli children’s deaths mentioned (through repetitions of deaths reported on previous days) at a rate ten times greater than Palestinian children’s deaths.

Times coverage of deaths of all ages, while less dramatically skewed, showed similar distortion. In the first year of the current Palestinian uprising, which began in fall of 2000, we discovered that the Times reported prominently on 42 percent of Palestinian deaths, and on 119 percent of Israeli deaths (follow-up headline articles, we find, frequently push coverage of Israeli deaths over 100 percent). In other words, the Times reported Israeli deaths at a rate approximately three times greater than Palestinian deaths.

During this period over three times more Palestinians were being killed than Israelis.

Overall, we found that in every single category Times coverage reported Israeli deaths at rates three or more times greater than Palestinian deaths.


http://www.counterpunch.org/weir04252005.html
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
abu_rashid
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Aussie Muslim

Posts: 8353
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #19 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:23pm
 
This video appears to show Palestinian fighters, perhaps Hamas forces (looks like their blue uniforms) from Israeli TV.


Back to top
 
abu_rashid  
IP Logged
 
abu_rashid
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Aussie Muslim

Posts: 8353
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #20 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:32pm
 
Quote:
Sadly Abu - the average person and those in high places don't care about the mess inside Palestine or the real numbers dead.


That's true Mantra, but still they don't want to make the same mistake they made in Lebanon, of allowing world public opinion of their actions to sour. That's why they've been very pro-active in 'feeding' the media and preventing bad press from getting out.


Back to top
 
abu_rashid  
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #21 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:46pm
 
Excuse me but just what GOOD PRESS comes out of war??????
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
easel
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 3120
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #22 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 10:01pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 10th, 2009 at 9:05pm:
I'm sorry we all have uniforms...  what do you think we wear in the field easel...  you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base.


Yes, standard troops will wear standard.

Non standard will wear non standard.

Start making sense and stop talking uninformed.
Back to top
 

I am from a foreign government. This is not a joke. I am authorised to investigate state and federal bodies including ASIO.
 
IP Logged
 
abu_rashid
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Aussie Muslim

Posts: 8353
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #23 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 10:03pm
 
Generally no press is good press (hence the prohibition on press entering). If it were a Muslim country, you'd be all crying how they're stifling free speech and open reporting, your hypocrisy is truly astounding.

And if there's no actual reports coming out of Gaza, then anything the IDF reports is instantly considered gospel truth, as there's no opposing story to counter it.


Back to top
 
abu_rashid  
IP Logged
 
easel
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 3120
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #24 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 10:12pm
 
There are many perspectives to look at when considering why the Israeli's wouldn't allow media in. A few quick ones are:

1. They are psycho murderers.

2. They don't want media getting killed.

3. They don't want to allow for the possibility of foreign fighters or human shields entering under the guise of media.

4. They are aware that much of the world media who arrives will possibly be against their cause, whether through honesty or propaganda, and they don't need enemy psy ops demoralising their troops and their support base.

5. They are covering up atrocities. See point 1.

Back to top
 

I am from a foreign government. This is not a joke. I am authorised to investigate state and federal bodies including ASIO.
 
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #25 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 11:46pm
 
easel no use pouting and spouting rubbish.

You were wrong
got the bull by the tail.

can you identify the israeli troops in Gaza?

of course you can.

You cant identify the bloody Hamas because they don't waer uniforms they are a ragtag bunch of ratbags whose macho swagger and  ignorance is  beyond pathetic.

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
easel
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 3120
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #26 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 11:58pm
 
Grendel, you are wrong.

Special forces are well known to wear local clothing and use local weapons when on certain missions.

No further discussion will be entered in to. Feel free to talk from your uninformed perspective, but don't expect me to ever lend you any credibility ever again.
Back to top
 

I am from a foreign government. This is not a joke. I am authorised to investigate state and federal bodies including ASIO.
 
IP Logged
 
abu_rashid
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Aussie Muslim

Posts: 8353
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #27 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 2:10am
 
Grendel,

I already posted a video showing them in uniform. Can you show me an example of them not wearing uniforms?

Thanks.
Back to top
 
abu_rashid  
IP Logged
 
Grendel
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 28080
Gender: male
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #28 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 5:05am
 
Didn't see it...  that abc link went to an article about Israelis wearing police uniforms.  oh dear.

They don't have a uniform....  they don't fight as an army or in uniform.

They wage war as a guerilla unit, not well drilled or disciplined almost as hopeless as the lebanese street wanderers who blow up their own buildings.  

They have no concern for their fellow palestinians or their children, they are beneath contempt.  Except for your of course.

Now... one last time provide images of an army uniformed fighting the enemy.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
abu_rashid
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Aussie Muslim

Posts: 8353
Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #29 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 6:48am
 
Quote:
Didn't see it...


The video is in reply #19.

Quote:
that abc link went to an article about Israelis wearing police uniforms.  oh dear.


Wearing HAMAS UNIFORMS. Read it a little more carefully.

"It said commandos dressed in the light blue fatigues of Hamas's paramilitary police Executive Force"

The Hamas paramilitary police are the only military arm of Hamas. They have uniforms and they've been wearing them during the conflict. You have been proven wrong, be man enough to admit it.


Back to top
 
abu_rashid  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print