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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The enemy within... Reply #15 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 6:48am Well it actually addresses the Muslim supporters of Terrorism in Australia gaybriel.. do you suppose you and Abu do? It's NOT about you unless you do.
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Reply #16 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 7:07am

Yes Grendel, that is how I interpreted your post, as being directed against the pro-Hamas people.

It would be nice to see some muslims criticising the terrorist acts of groups like Hamas, but we never do.

What we do see, is aussie muslims, demonstrating their support for this terrorist organisation, and that is most definitely not the same thing, as supporting innocent Palestinians.

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Reply #17 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 7:22am

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It would be nice to see some muslims criticising the terrorist acts of groups like Hamas, but we never do.

What we do see, is aussie muslims, demonstrating their support for this terrorist organisation, and that is most definitely not the same thing, as supporting innocent Palestinians.

Interesting Mozzaok - you say Aussie Muslims are demonstrating their support for Hamas, well how about Australian & other Jews who aren't actually supporting Hamas but are condemning Israel for endangering their people in their cruel and inhumane actions against the Palestinians.

There are more and more people who are turning against Israel and they are from non-muslim religions, races and cultures.

They have brought this on themselves. I posted an article somewhere that even the zionists believe that this will be their last major bombardment as in the future they will not have the same support from Obama and other governments who have cowtowed to Bush for so long.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The enemy within... Reply #18 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 7:57am There is no racial monopoly on stupidity and ignorance mantra. Are you comfortable seeing 1000s of ignorant radicals in your neighbourhood... good for you... hell you'd probably join them based on some of the stuff you apparently believe
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Reply #19 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 8:02am

Well I doubt that very much Mantra.

In fact I expect the opposite to happen.

I think that people are fed up with hearing about Islamists causing trouble, just about everywhere that muslims live.
If they are not fighting against Jews, or Westerners, they are fighting against other muslim factions.

So we will see more people empathising with the Jewish experience, that their Islamic neighbours are violent and aggressive, and they have put up with their violence for long enough.

Unless Islam changes it's ways, and there is precious little hope of that, then we will see even greater lines of demarcation develop, between Islam and the rest of the world.

China won't put up with them, and neither will India, so rather than a softening of the support from the US, for Israel, we will likely see the focus move to these other areas of dispute, and hopefully see Israel's actions against Hamas, see the Palestinians lose the capability to carry out their terrorist objectives.

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Reply #20 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 8:34am

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Are you comfortable seeing 1000s of ignorant radicals in your neighbourhood... good for you... hell you'd probably join them based on some of the stuff you apparently believe

What does condemning a barbaric invasion of a land 1000's of km away have to do with 'radicals in your neighbourhood'? Was that the best you could come up with? really, pretty pathetic.

Better be careful not to condemn the crises in Darfur as well Mantra, or you might have Sudanese taking over your town Grin

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Reply #21 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 8:45am

Funny you should say that Abu. I live a little further up from Sydney - but we have recently had a few Sudanese come to our area. After living in an "all white" community for so long - I am glad the area is becoming more diverse.

In fact there's a Sudanese family 2 doors up who have recently moved in and for the first time in years I have heard children laughing happily.

I take the dog for a walk at night and in a usually quiet deserted area that I have to walk through - there are Sudanese children kicking a ball around and attracting caucasian children to join in their games as well.

They've brought some life to the area in my humble opinion.

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Reply #22 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 8:50am

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There is no racial monopoly on stupidity and ignorance mantra.

Are you comfortable seeing 1000s of ignorant radicals in your neighbourhood... good for you... hell you'd probably join them based on some of the stuff you apparently believe

There is no need for people to be radical in my neighbourhood Grendel. The majority appear to embrace newcomers.

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Reply #23 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 8:59am

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They've brought some life to the area in my humble opinion.

Are you sure Mantra??? After reading some stuff on this forum I was under the impression all foreigners, especially Africans, are criminals and only destroy the fabric of our once pure sociiety... How could it be that they bring life and joy to any community??? Surely you're mistaken!!!

On a more serious note, I'm glad they're fitting in. It's strange but I think foreigners often fit in better in the country than in the city. Even though we'd think they'd be better off in the city. Perhaps the government can learn something from that, and begin providing more incentives for immigrants to settle in more country areas instead of the big cities, I'm sure there's ways to make it economically viable.

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Reply #24 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 10:39am

Just another idiotic deflection... like being used do you mantra?

How about you address the real issue of ignorant masses in our midst of Islamic origin who belief the rubbish espoused by radicals like Hilali.

Oh no it's ok for a thousand idiot muslims to protest, just as long as they dont take it any further eh. Well we already know there are terrorists amongst them and if they believe this crap in the numbers that obviously do and Abu is a prime example what real security do we have? Allowing them to live amongst us.

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Reply #25 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:21pm

Soren wrote on Jan 6^th, 2009 at 11:33pm:

[quote author=Erin link=1230896008/0#10 date=1231245115]cut out the personal attacks please

grendel- what is the point of this thread if not to indirectly try to attack abu and myself?

if there is another point please bring it to my attention. otherwise this will be closed.

the first post mentioned abu and myself and other posts were directed that way also- hence the question

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Reply #26 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:23pm

mozzaok wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 12:53am:

More threats of deletions.

You really are too sensitive, the initial post was slightly ambiguous, as to who the descriptive was referring, but on the face of it, it seemed directed at the anti-Israeli mob.

it's a way of keeping things on track instead of letting them devolve into slinging matches or thinly veiled personal attacks

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Abu is not backwards in coming forwards with personal insults either Gaybriel, so ease up on the whole threats business, it is getting beyond a joke.

and he has been modded whenever that has occurred

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The enemy within... Reply #27 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:33pm rotflmao... You need to find a new bunch of non-Muslim friends to hang with for a while gaybriel... maybe that will unprogram you.
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Reply #28 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:49pm

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Just another idiotic deflection... like being used do you mantra?

How about you address the real issue of ignorant masses in our midst of Islamic origin who belief the rubbish espoused by radicals like Hilali.

From what I've heard in the last couple of years - Hilali is not well respected among the general Muslim population.

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Oh no it's ok for a thousand idiot muslims to protest, just as long as they dont take it any further eh. Well we already know there are terrorists amongst them and if they believe this crap in the numbers that obviously do and Abu is a prime example what real security do we have? Allowing them to live amongst us.

I'm sick to death of Judaism and Islamism, but I don't believe there is a terrorist threat amongst the Australian Muslims - most of them appear to want to live in peace the way we do. Have you heard about the new Jewish eruv (or whatever it's called) in St. Ives. There's one in Bondi/Waverly as well. What would you say if the Muslims built one for themselves? At least most Muslims are integrating with the general population.

The situation in Gaza is a humanitarian one Grendel. A group of people living in poverty stricken ghettos entirely at the mercy of one greedy state who has the support of the big guns are being told to give up their souls and everything else they possess or else they will be blasted to bits.

In fact it is more than a humanitarian crisis - Israel is committing a crime against humanity.

I don't understand what you mean by being used Grendel - perhaps I'm being more honest and not as PC as usual.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The enemy within... Reply #29 - Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:52pm You don't eh? So how do you explain those already convivted and those still on trial mantra?
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