oh dear and YOU have not read the reports that rocket attacks came from the schools vicinity...


Oh and BTW tank shells happen to be a tad bigger than bullets.  

If idiot Hamas terrorists were setting off rockets near me I'd make sure me and my loved ones were nowhere near them.

Unless of course you are trying to say that terrorism is so widespread that nearly all palestinians supprort or carry out such behaviour.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


Given your propensity to blame arabs for the attrocites committed by Israel against innocent civilians, forgive us if we don't take your views on the crusades to seriously.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


What was that about revisionist history?

We taught your ancestors to stop bathing in their own sh(t...and don't you forget it.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


Of course...killing all the occupants of a village and then eating their remains is something we should all be proud of.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


I will...

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


I know  you'd like to make the whole Palestine/Israel issue about religon, but the fact is, it is not. It is about land. Israel does not distinguish between Palestinian muslims/Christians.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


Thats ok...because I don't respect your religon or your beliefs. And why should I be offended what you think? That would imply that we care...and quite frankly, we don't.

On the contrary...if someone like you did respect my beliefs..then I would take a good hard look at myself.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


lol...this is all really nonsense, and all it does is makes you look like a paranoid schizophrenic.

I was born here, and have lived here all my life. Tell me...what have I ever done to 'destroy your democracy'.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


You must lead a very depressing life....continuously living in fear...looking under your bed making sure that the 'muzzies' aren't coming to get you.

Your living in the wrong time...your would of been right at home during the McArthy era.

Calanen wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 2:46pm:


Firstly, it was never the UK's land to give. The zionists then used terror tactics to force Palestinians to flee and then stole additional land, and the fact is now, that 10% you mention has increased to 24%.

So I take it that if the UK had decided to give the jews part of Australia, where you happen to live, and then they began terrorising you, forcing you to leave, and they then stole your land and home, and forced your into a tiny strip of land, and commenced to oppress you for the next 50 years.. you would have no objections.

But Skippy...  you are hardly ever right. 

Lestat wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 3:18pm:


It is about religion, about islam. It is about land only in so far as it is 'muslim' land.

remind us - Israel pulled out of gaza in 2005. It was completely judenfrei. The land was cleared of joos. Still, since hamas was elected in 2006, they fired thousands of rockets into Israel - which was NOT occupying gaza.
Why?

Quote:


yeah, tactics like being attacked by Arab armies on day 1. Wily joos, eh?

Soren wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 5:24pm:


Well actually, no it isn't about religon, though I understand that a bigot like you would like to make it appear so, as in your sick mind it would justify the murder of woman.

However, I think you'll find that Palestinian Christians would strongly disagree with you, having been at the receiving end of those 'loving Israelis' numerous times.

Why don't you ask Serb Erakat, a Palestinian Christians whether his fight against Israeli oppression if its about 'religon'.

Soren wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 5:24pm:


What pullout? Do you mean the one where Israel abandoned a hand full of illegal settlements, only to create even more illegal settlements in WestBank.

The one where Israel ensured that Gaza would turn into the worlds largest prison, where they controlled all Gaza's borders, air space and sea ports....pretty much isolating Gaza's residents from the outside world.

Right...the pullout which, really, wasn't much a pullout at all, given that Israel still had (and still has) complete control over what and who goes in and out of Palestine.

Then again...it appears that this PR stunt fooled those with little understanding of..which ofcourse includes you.

Soren wrote on Jan 7^th, 2009 at 5:24pm:


lol...once again spoken like someone who has no idea or clue about the history of the conflict.

You do realise that the zionists were arriving in Palestine long before the 48 war...actually at the turn of the centery.

Ever heard of Irgun and Stern.....or the massacre at Deir al-Yassin.

I suggest you go and learn something before making yourself look foolish.

Anyway...if Grendel would go away and allow the adults to continue.

This was in the AGE today...

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Gaza: the great divide - 1
Khalid Meshaal
January 7, 2009
FOR 18 months my people in Gaza have been under siege, incarcerated inside the world's biggest prison, sealed off from land, air and sea, caged and starved, denied medication for our sick. After the slow-death policy came the bombardment.

In this most densely populated of places, nothing has been spared Israel's planes, from government buildings to homes, mosques, hospitals, schools and markets. More than 540 have been killed and thousands permanently maimed. A third are women and children. Whole families have been massacred.

This river of blood is being shed under lies and false pretexts. For six months we in Hamas observed the ceasefire. Israel broke it repeatedly from the start. Israel was required to open crossings to Gaza, and extend the truce to the West Bank. It proceeded to tighten its deadly siege of Gaza, repeatedly cutting electricity and water supplies. The collective punishment accelerated, as did the assassinations and killings. Thirty Gazans were killed by Israeli fire and hundreds of patients died as a direct effect of the siege during the so-called ceasefire. Israel enjoyed a period of calm. Our people did not.

When this broken truce neared its end, we expressed our readiness for a new comprehensive truce in return for lifting the blockade and opening all Gaza border crossings, including Rafah. Our calls fell on deaf ears. Yet still we would be willing to begin a new truce on these terms following the complete withdrawal of the invading forces from Gaza.

No rockets have ever been fired from the West Bank. But 50 died and hundreds more were injured there last year at Israel's hands, while its expansionism proceeded relentlessly. We are meant to be content with shrinking scraps of territory, a handful of cantons at Israel's mercy, enclosed by it from all sides. The truth is Israel seeks a one-sided ceasefire, observed by my people alone, in return for siege, starvation, bombardment, assassinations, incursions, and colonial settlement. What Israel wants is a gratuitous ceasefire.

The logic of those who demand that we stop our resistance is absurd. They absolve the aggressor and occupier, armed with the deadliest weapons of death and destruction, of responsibility, while blaming the victim, prisoner and occupied. Our modest, home-made rockets are our cry of protest to the world. Israel and its American and European sponsors want us to be killed in silence. But die in silence we will not.

What is being visited on Gaza today was visited on Yasser Arafat before. When he refused to bow to Israel's dictates, he was imprisoned in his Ramallah headquarters, surrounded by tanks for two years. When this failed to break his resolve, he was murdered by poisoning.

Gaza enters 2009 just as it did 2008: under Israeli fire. Between January and February of last year 140 Gazans died in air strikes. And just before it embarked on its failed military assault on Lebanon in July 2006, Israel rained thousands of shells on Gaza, killing 240. From Deir Yassin in 1948 to Gaza today, the list of Israel's crimes is long. The justifications change, but the reality is the same: colonial occupation, oppression, and never-ending injustice. If this is the "free world" whose "values" Israel is defending as Tzipi Livni alleges, then we want nothing to do with it.

Israel's leaders remain in the grip of confusion, unable to set clear goals for the attacks, from ousting the legitimately elected Hamas Government and destroying its infrastructure to stopping the rockets. As they fail to break Gaza's resistance, the benchmark has been lowered. Now they speak of weakening Hamas and limiting the resistance. But they will achieve neither. Gaza's people are more united than ever, determined not to be terrorised into submission.

Our fighters, armed with the justice of their cause, have already caused many casualties among the occupation army and will fight on to defend their land and people. Nothing can defeat our will to be free.

Once again, Washington and Europe have opted to aid and abet the jailer, occupier and aggressor, and to condemn its victims. We hoped Barack Obama would break with George Bush's disastrous legacy but his start is not encouraging. While he swiftly moved to denounce the Mumbai attacks, he remains tongue-tied after 10 days of slaughter in Gaza.

But my people are not alone. Millions of freedom-loving men and women stand by its struggle for justice and liberation — witness daily protests worldwide against Israeli aggression.

Israel will no doubt wreak untold destruction, death and suffering in Gaza. But it will meet the same fate in Gaza as it did in Lebanon.

We will not be broken by siege and bombardment, and will never surrender to occupation.

GUARDIAN

Insha'allah the Palestinians will have victory and there will come a day when the Israeli murderers will be held accountable for their attrocities.

You haven't changed with the sourcing of your "facts" have you Grendel?

Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs - are you serious?  How about something unbiased for a change?

Just a comment on "Gaza: the great divide - 1" - The suffering of the Palestinians has become almost unbearable even to read about let alone live under those conditions.  But like many oppressed people from developing or third world nations or war zones - they fade into irrelevance.

Have you ever asked yourself Grendel why some Muslims have become suicide bombers and why so recently in their history?