come on yadda, hop into a few muslim chatrooms.

I bet you'll get banned within 2 days

ggwwwwaaaaaarrrrrnnnnnnnneeeeee

you KNOW you want to ............

http://www.islamonline.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=188384

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/southasia/news/article_1445348.php/Organi...

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidANA20081127T133239ZSHI46/Iran%20condemns%20%27...

http://mikeghouse.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/07/muslims-condemn-the-mumbai-rail-...

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 11:52pm:




"WORLD MUSLIM CONGRESS CONDEMNS MUMBAI TRAIN BOMBINGS"

"Iran condemns 'evil' attacks in Mumbai"

"Organisation of Islamic Conference condemns Mumbai attacks"

"Muslims Condemn Mumbai Terror"





Gaybriel,

I welcome these announcements, being made on behalf of muslim communities.



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BUT, THE PROBLEM IS....

There is a lot of evidence, that when they are speaking candidly, among themselves, many muslim community leaders [those living in the West!], are actually heard promoting such acts, privately.]

Knowing that such attacks are generally [though secretly] condoned, and encouraged by many muslim community leaders, i do wonder, cynically, if such public pronouncements can be truly sincere?



Gaybriel,

I would be better convinced of muslim sincerity, if i were i to hear, from many Australian muslim community leaders, a broad condemnation of all violence directed against non-muslims.

And i would be better convinced if we were to hear these community leaders, repudiate many of the verses in the Koran and Hadith, which seem to encourage, and justify violent behaviour towards non-muslims, simply because the are non-muslims.




SUPPORTING NEWS REPORT FROM THE UK.....

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005
A Sunday Times reporter spent two months as a recruit inside the Saviour Sect to reveal for the first time how the extremist group promotes hatred of 'non-believers' and encourages its followers to commit acts of violence including suicide bombings.
The reporter witnessed one of the sect’s leading figures, Sheikh Omar Brooks, telling a young audience, including children, that it was the duty of Muslims to be terrorists and boasting, just days before the July 7 attacks, that he wanted to die as a suicide bomber.
.......Speaking to a group of teenagers and families, he declared it was imperative for Muslims to "instil terror into the hearts of the kuffar" and added: "I am a terrorist. As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html


Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam
01/05/2007
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".
The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/01/nplot901.xml



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Support for such actions, from the Hadith.....

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me:"
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/004.smt.html#004.10...


"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.0...

Yadda wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 2:25pm:


such things have been said, such announcements have been made.

but of course, even if you heard these you would merely say that behind closed doors it's a different story.

I seriously doubt you'd ever be satisfied

gaybriel - please explain this :



Religious head incited killers

"THE al-Qa'ida-linked Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorists suspected over the Mumbai massacre were trained in Muzaffarabad, capital of Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, and were incited by speeches from their leader in Lahore.

As the sole surviving terrorist was interrogated in Mumbai, security sources told The Australian that 10 terrorists were picked by LET for the suicide mission. ................

.........."Finally, in a sermon to a congregation at the Jamia Masjid al-Qudsia (mosque) in Lahore at the end of October, Saeed proclaimed that there was an 'ongoing war in the world between Islam and its enemies'.

"He claimed that 'crusaders of the East and West have united in a cohesive onslaught against Muslims'."


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24731818-2703,00.html

perhaps you would like to point out to your muslim mates in MV this is yet another terrorist attack by muslim promoted by a religious leader who is well versed in the koran.

then see how quickly they delete you.

Gaybriel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 12:50am:



They are judged by their actions, like everyone else. And they are thought deceptive because their actions and words are at odds more often than not - they say one thing and do another.

And whoever says that it is not about Islam or is not propelled by is again indulging in deception. If it was just a bunch of Pakistanis being angry about India and Kashmir and the rest  - then why did they target the orthodox jewish centre in Bombay, torturing and killing them? Abslolutely nothing to do with the India/Pakistan conflict. But for the jihadis, jew-killing is on top of the kuffur-killing list  for winning the paradise jackpot. What kind of religion is that?