Well gee thanks for telling me something I already know.

Woosh...  watch out another point flew right over your head.

Oh almost forgot...

sea·son      (sē'zən)  Pronunciation Key
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        1. One of the four natural divisions of the year, spring, summer, fall, and winter, in the North and South Temperate zones. Each season, beginning astronomically at an equinox or solstice, is characterized by specific meteorological or climatic conditions.

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Who says it overrides other causes?

AGW causes and additional change, on top of the natural variability in climate.

Yes it is Soren. Fortunately the scientists put together more than one sentence on the issue. I was just responding to your query.

Incidentally, the reason that I singled out Dr. Sami Solanki--director and scientific member at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, was because he is actually a highly respected  lead researcher involved in solar irradiance series. The Max Planck Institute is at the forefront of extrapolating Solar irradiance figures back at least until the beginning of the 19th century.

It's quite a complex task to do that. It involves many proxies, orbital calculations and also takes into account solar activity.

Here is his Home Page:

http://www.mps.mpg.de/homes/solanki/nonsci.html

A misleading account of my views was published in the Toronto National Post in March, 2007 (and is to be found at different places on the web). In contrast to what is written there I am not a denier of global warming produced by an increase in the concentration of greenhouse gases. Already at present the overwhelming source of global warming is due to manmade greenhouse gases and their influence will continue to grow in the future as their concentration increases. The same newspaper already misquoted other scientists on this topic. See, for example, the home page of Nigel Weiss of Cambridge University http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/now/

Grendel - doesn't that even bother you that he was included on that list you quoted? Just stop and think about it. Are you concerned that your post repeated a lie?

Oh and I almost forgot..

Don't you suppose that during warming periods that all Greenhouse gasses increase?

Oh dear. 

Grendel wrote on Nov 27^th, 2008 at 9:52am:


Yes. That's what I said in my previous post. What point are you trying to make here?

A little bit of information on Richard Lindzen:

Professor Richard Lindzen
Lindzen is Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He is a well-regarded meteorologist with a distinguished publication record (see http://tinyurl.com/28wszg); however, his research is mostly in meteorology (the weather) rather than on climatology.

His last original research in climatology was published in 2001 (ISI WoS) and hypothesized an adaptive “Iris Effect” of clouds in the tropics that reduces the temperature change due to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations. However, this hypothesis has since been strongly disputed by other climate scientists (see http://tinyurl.com/23gwno).

Lindzen co-authored a 2001 report of the National Academy of Sciences http://tinyurl.com/yuswbu, which concluded that:

Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth’s atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise. Temperatures are, in fact, rising. The changes observed over the last several decades are likely mostly due to human activities, but we cannot rule out that some significant part of these changes is also a reflection of natural variability.”

He has since claimed that the summary did not accurately reflect the main report, and has made similar criticisms of the IPCC Summary for Policy Makers from its 2001 Third Assessment Report (see http://tinyurl.com/2ay5vj)  – although he has yet to demonstrate the basis of these claims.

Despite reportedly saying that he is “willing to take bets that global average temperatures in 20 years will in fact be lower than they are now”, he has refused to accept a bet with climatologist James Annan on this, unless the payout was 50:1 or better in his favour (see http://tinyurl.com/39e5ne).

Lindzen has also been accused by distinguished scientists of having said things in public testimony, in order to win an argument, that he knew were not supported by the scientific evidence – see: http://tinyurl.com/yo5and, http://tinyurl.com/ytb2g9, http://tinyurl.com/2a35a6and http://tinyurl.com/yrbcju.

C.17.1 Direct Corporate Funding
In a 1995 article in Harper’s Magazine, Ross Gelbspan asserted that Lindzen “charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels; and a speech he wrote, entitled Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus, was underwritten by OPEC” (see http://tinyurl.com/2rpr7k, subscription required).

C.17.2 Links to Corporate-funded Lobby Groups
(For information about the following organisations and the funding they receive, see Appendix D: Corporate-funded Organisations Linked to Contributors to the Programme).

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He is a Member of the Science and Economic Advisory Council of The Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy (see http://tinyurl.com/26rdf5).

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He is a Contributing Expert to the Cato Institute , and has also written reports for them. See, for example, Lindzen, R., 1992, Global warming: The Origin and Nature of the Alleged Scientific Consensus, Regulation Magazine, Vol.15, No. 2, Spring 1992: published by the Cato Institute, http://tinyurl.com/y9gk3j.

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He is a Contributing Expert to the George C. Marshall Institute (see http://tinyurl.com/2sq4pf).

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He has been a contributor to TCS Daily, the web-based magazine of the Tech Central Science Foundation (see http://tinyurl.com/2lbqad).

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He is a global warming expert with the Heartland Institute (see: http://tinyurl.com/33txc4).