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Re: Not "climate change"
Reply #135 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:03am

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:02am:

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:00am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 8:56am:

look, here is another graph

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.pn...

- and your point?

The picture, muso, the picture .....

Don't be lazy. What are you trying to say?

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Reply #136 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:05am

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:03am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:02am:

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:00am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 8:56am:

look, here is another graph

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.pn...

- and your point?

The picture, muso, the picture .....

Don't be lazy. What are you trying to say?

Don't be lazy, look at picture.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #137 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:11am OK. Here's my reply to your 'well articulated' point.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8348 Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #138 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:16am muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:11am: OK. Here's my reply to your 'well articulated' point. Lots of meat
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #139 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:19am tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:16am: muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:11am: OK. Here's my reply to your 'well articulated' point. Lots of meat Likewise. Now imagine another graph showing the area occupied by forest over time. What point do you think I'm trying to make?
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Reply #140 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:22am

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:19am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:16am:

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:11am:

OK. Here's my reply to your 'well articulated' point.

Lots of meat

Likewise. Now imagine another graph showing the area occupied by forest over time. What point do you think I'm trying to make?

Lots of wood.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #141 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:22am What do you think these cliffs are made of, and why is it significant?
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Reply #142 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:24am

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:22am:

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:19am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:16am:

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:11am:

OK. Here's my reply to your 'well articulated' point.

Lots of meat

Likewise. Now imagine another graph showing the area occupied by forest over time. What point do you think I'm trying to make?

Lots of wood.

that's right - Lots of growing wood. Now lots of growing wood collects lots of carbon from where?

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8348 Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #143 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:25am muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:22am: What do you think these cliffs are made of, and why is it significant? They made of white trash.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8348 Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #144 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:28am Another nice picture
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Reply #145 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:33am

They are made of calcium carbonate.

If you extend your graph back into the Pre Cambrian - in fact prior to 2.4 billion years ago, the Earth's atmosphere had no oxygen and lots of CO2 - in fact around about 500,000 ppm.

Why is that relevant to this discussion? You tell me.

We now have 6.8 billion people on Earth for one thing. The buffering capacity of the Earth has dramatically dropped. Even the species of marine organisms that could survive lower ocean pH are long dead and gone and replaced with modern species that don't have enough time to evolve.

We're not in Kansas any more.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #146 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:34am tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:28am: Another nice picture http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Vostok-ice-core-petit.png You'll find a very similar one to that in an earlier post of mine (reply 129). You have to scroll down to see that part.
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Reply #147 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:37am

muso wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:33am:

They are made of calcium carbonate.

If you extend your graph back into the Pre Cambrian - in fact prior to 2.4 billion years ago, the Earth's atmosphere had no oxygen and lots of CO2 - in fact around about 500,000 ppm.

Why is that relevant to this discussion? You tell me.

We now have 6.8 billion people on Earth for one thing. The buffering capacity of the Earth has dramatically dropped. Even the species of marine organisms that could survive lower ocean pH are long dead and gone and replaced with modern species that don't have enough time to evolve.

We're not in Kansas any more.

So how do you propose to reduce human population?

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Not "climate change" Reply #148 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:47am tallowood wrote on Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:37am: So how do you propose to reduce human population? A good question. Any suggestions? One way would be to just ignore everything we know and carry on burning coal as if it's not important. That would do it. It's a bit drastic and inhumane though - don't you think?
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Reply #149 - Nov 29^th, 2008 at 9:47am

I don't suppose muso it has crossed your mind that REAL CLIMATE is a propaganda site for this new wave of climate hysteria?

BTW I am quite ok with fixing all kinds of pollution... including that of CO2 emissions.

Wanna graph?

"...the Earth was evidently coming out of a relatively cold period in the 1800s so that warming in the past century may be part of this natural recovery."

Dr. John R. Christy
(leading climate and atmospheric science expert- U. of Alabama in Huntsville) (5)

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