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Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians
Reply #60 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:38am

jordan484 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:31am:

No, I'm not.

Funny, sure looks like a defence.

jordan484 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:31am:

What's your definition of an "innocent" person? Only a muslim?

No...any non-combatant.

jordan484 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:31am:

All evidence to the contrary up to this point.

That is a lie and you know it. Care to share with us this 'evidence' you speak of?

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Reply #61 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:42am

jordan484 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:18am:

I'm not defending anyone, no one here is my "non-muslim buddy" all I was doing was stating the logic is the same.

I disagree that you only blame the west on atrocities committed against muslims, I feel you blame the west instead of blaming Islam or muslims, either because they were forced into a situation by the west or they are "puppets" of the west or numerous other excuses for muslims behaving badly.

if the logic is the same why are you not attacking tallowood's argument the same as you would attack abu's?

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Reply #62 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:44am

Yadda wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:31am:

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2008 at 5:31pm:

it's amazing that not one person here has condemned the behaviour of the people in the videos

I doubt half of you even watched them

Gaybriel,

I confess i have not watched these particular videos.

I am on dialup [typically] @ 21 kb/s

My bandwidth [such as it is!] is too precious to waste, in spending hours downloading ISLAMIC propaganda.
....i've seen a lot of it before.

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I'd rather pursue a different path of inquiry.....

Google,
pallywood propaganda israel palestinian conflict
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=pallywood+propaganda+israel+palestinian+...

well if you haven't watched them I suggest you are ill-equipped to comment. unless you have something constructive to add about israel and palestine. we have already discussed false reports from palestine

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Reply #63 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:45am

Lestat wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:34am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

No I did not, where did I say that the soldier is a hero? Does Koran teach you to tell lies? I doubt that.

And stop denying will of God when he manifests it.

First post on this thread. Here you go.

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

Unfortunately some of the Moslem (bad) used children for suicide attack. Such behaviour is disgusting and is against Islamic doctrine according to what was told here by Moslem residents. That is why God supports IDF against hamas and other terrorists.

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So where there is anything about the soldier?

It was you not I who said something about the soldier-hero...Was it your tacit aknowledgment of God's will or you still deny that God wills everything?

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Yeah whatever

mod: personal, not constructive, childish

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Reply #64 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:46am

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:45am:

Lestat wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:34am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

No I did not, where did I say that the soldier is a hero? Does Koran teach you to tell lies? I doubt that.

And stop denying will of God when he manifests it.

First post on this thread. Here you go.

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

Unfortunately some of the Moslem (bad) used children for suicide attack. Such behaviour is disgusting and is against Islamic doctrine according to what was told here by Moslem residents. That is why God supports IDF against hamas and other terrorists.

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So where there is anything about the soldier?

It was you not I who said something about the soldier-hero...Was it your tacit aknowledgment of God's will or you still deny that God wills everything?

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Yeah whatever

This sort of argument makes you bad in eyes of Allah and the looser of discussion.

it's logical deduction

IMO it is quite arrogant to assume you know the mind of God. you do not know how God sees Lestat.

and for the record, according to Islam one does not go to hell for being angry or for lieing etc- it's hardly that simplistic.

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Reply #65 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:49am

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:42am:

jordan484 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:18am:

I'm not defending anyone, no one here is my "non-muslim buddy" all I was doing was stating the logic is the same.

I disagree that you only blame the west on atrocities committed against muslims, I feel you blame the west instead of blaming Islam or muslims, either because they were forced into a situation by the west or they are "puppets" of the west or numerous other excuses for muslims behaving badly.

if the logic is the same why are you not attacking tallowood's argument the same as you would attack abu's?

Their argument is being attacked......what I found interesting is that those doing the attacking use the same logic, only in reverse. That's the point I was making.

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Reply #66 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:52am

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Funny, sure looks like a defence.

Well it isn't.

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No...any non-combatant.

Care to elaborate?

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That is a lie and you know it. Care to share with us this 'evidence' you speak of?

No, it's not a lie.....and check any number of threads on Islam where abu attempts to defend the indefensible.

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"We should always say that I may refrain from publishing a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed, but it's because I fear you. Don't for one moment think it's because I respect you." Richard Dawkins

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Reply #67 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:00am

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:46am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:45am:

Lestat wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:34am:

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

No I did not, where did I say that the soldier is a hero? Does Koran teach you to tell lies? I doubt that.

And stop denying will of God when he manifests it.

First post on this thread. Here you go.

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 10:25am:

Unfortunately some of the Moslem (bad) used children for suicide attack. Such behaviour is disgusting and is against Islamic doctrine according to what was told here by Moslem residents. That is why God supports IDF against hamas and other terrorists.

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So where there is anything about the soldier?

It was you not I who said something about the soldier-hero...Was it your tacit aknowledgment of God's will or you still deny that God wills everything?

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Yeah whatever

This sort of argument makes you bad in eyes of Allah and the looser of discussion.

it's logical deduction

IMO it is quite arrogant to assume you know the mind of God. you do not know how God sees Lestat.

and for the record, according to Islam one does not go to hell for being angry or for lieing etc- it's hardly that simplistic.

It was deduction of Lestat, which has nothing to do with logic but a lot to do with personal attacks and lies.

Did you clean out his transgressions yet instead of apologising for that sinner?

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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians Reply #68 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:05am I thought I had modded out all personal attacks- feel free to pm me if I've missed some (so as not to clog up this thread). or you can put them in the complaints thread
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7318 Gender:	Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians Reply #69 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:12am mod: deleted
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Lestat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1403	Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians Reply #70 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:19am mod: deleted
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 7318 Gender:	Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians Reply #71 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:25am Lestat wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:19am: mod: deleted Allah's will is evident.
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Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians
Reply #72 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:28am

tallowood wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:00am:

This sort of argument makes you bad in eyes of Allah and the looser of discussion.

This is logical deduction, however, with you I'm not sure why I even bother. Obviously logic aint one of your strongest points.

It was deduction of Lestat, which has nothing to do with logic but a lot to do with personal attacks and lies.

Did you clean out his transgressions yet instead of apologising for that sinner?

lol..yeah right...I'm the looser.

You have been given a number of opportunities now to condemn the murderer who shot a 13 y.o girl 14 times in the chest...yet you choose to attack Hamas, and I have shown clearly that you stated that 'God supports the IDF', of which this soldier is a member of.

IF your talking about transgressions, once again, go and read the posts and your continuos personal attacks directed at me and my religon.

I have not once mentioned your religous beliefs, yet you continously attack mine. Perhaps Gabriel should actuall look at who is insulting who here, and act accordingly.

Fact is you have defended this soldiers actions, and chosen to blame Hamas, and not the one who pulled the trigger. These are the facts, and even though you can claim them to be lies to your hearts content, unfortunately for you, your views are their for all to see.

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Reply #73 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:35am

Gabriel,

Do these comments not constitute personal abuse?

"This sort of argument makes you bad in eyes of Allah and the looser of discussion."

"Does Allah will you to tell lies or are you servant of Shaitan?"

"Your twisting the Truth and continuous personal attacks makes Islam to look bad and according to Koran you will burn in hell for that. "

Really I don't care whether you remove these quotes or not, cause really, they make the poster look rather foolish, however, I am not sure why you have removed or modded my posts, whilst allowing these quotes to remain.

Everything I have said has been deduced by what has been written by the poster in this very thread. It is not him I have attacked, but his views.

Whereas his statements have nothing to do with the topic or my posts for that matter, and he has posted them in desperation and in order to insult and anger.

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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Israeli treatment of Palestinians Reply #74 - Nov 20^th, 2008 at 11:39am thankyou for pointing these out- I will have a look at them. discussion of this has been moved to complaints- any further comments please leave them there
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