Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:1-5)

I think you need to learn how to practise your own religion first before advising others Yadda.

Just posting some of your scripture for you, as a reminder of how you should look towards the faults of others. Not happy to hear your own scripture? Because it contradicts your behaviour so much?

The clip isn't worth commenting on. Am I responsible for him or something? Are all Muslims, or Islam itself responsible for him or something? Would you like me to ask you to take responsiblity each time a Christian does something wrong?

Well it would except some Muslims here prefer to...
1/Attack
2/Cry victim
3/Dissemble
4/Ignore

*waits for abu to ask what the "aussie way" is*

I'll sum it up in three words:
"A fair go".

Everybody has their right to voice their opinion, which may range from apathetic to impassioned.


And if you see the phrase " Don't stuff with the aussie way or you'll get toasted" as a personal threat then you have no idea of the context in which it was used.
You should take off that dim viewed letterbox mask and become a real human Gaybriel.

Amadd wrote on Dec 19^th, 2008 at 2:28am:


two thumbs up- this is the way I believe it should be aswell (within certain parameters of course)


Quote:


if you explain the context to me I will unmod- to me it came across as a personal threat, if you explain this is not the case I will unmod and extend my apologies to you

Amadd,

Do you honestly believe this forum is a broad spread of Australian views? Luckily for Muslims, most Australians are not like the extremist nationalists here, half of whom border on being white supremacist.

Come on, this is a minority forum, for the unintellectual and frustrated

sprintcyclist,

What exactly were you hoping for? Doi you have some preconceived idea of what kind of comment I'm supposed to make? Please do share..

Grendel -

Well it would except some Muslims here prefer to...
1/Attack
2/Cry victim
3/Dissemble
4/Ignore

may we add

5/ divert
6/ discredit source ??


Course, this post will prob be "modded" soon, so read it quickly !!!!!!!!

nice threat gaybriel lastworder

many wimmen like to think that is their name

No, it isn't abu, so perhaps you need to learn how to be less bitter towards, the US, Israel, the west in general, Jews, Christians, in fact anyone non-muslim, eaters of pork, drinkers of wine and anyone and everyone who has a differing opinion to yours.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 18^th, 2008 at 11:39pm:






abu,

Thank you for your rebuke.




And i apologise if my 'un-Christian' MANNER [in rebuking muslims] offends you....

We Christians are told [in the Bible] to love our fellow man.

That means i [we] do not hate [muslims, or anyone else].

Christians accept that muslims are [like ourselves,] imperfect human beings, and [we hope] seekers of TRUTH.

We Christians also understand [from the Bible] that [in our pursuit of TRUTH], we [ourselves] MUST NOT EMBRACE EVIL.
....but rather we should rebuke evil.





And many Bible verses confirm that God intends that the hatred of evil, should be a trait of the 'properly guided'.

Of course abu, different men, define 'evil' differently.

I know that devout muslims define evil differently, from how i do.

But abu, i think that in our hearts, we all know what evil is.
....evil is human vanity.

Thinking that we are 'higher' than we are.
....higher than our brothers, and sisters.

That is evil, and it comes from an evil heart.



Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

"......the froward mouth, do I hate."

abu, did you hear 'that mouth' on Muhammad, in the YOUTUBE clip???



Proverbs 16:6
By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.

Speaking TRUTH = = is sorta like shining a light, where some ppl do not want it shone.



Psalms 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.


Psalms 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing [deceit]: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

"......will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."

I think God intends that we should all abhor all bloody and deceitful men, not just all devout muslims.



Titus 2:15
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.


Hebrews 1:9
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Hmmm....

'Dissimulation', where could we go with that!

Dictionary,
dissimulation = = hide or disguise one’s thoughts or feelings.




Hmmm....

Dissimulation,





Devout muslims will tell ignorant non-muslims, that ISLAM is the religion of peace.

[and this is evil. i.e. lying, covering the truth.]

But those same devout muslims, do not reveal to the ignorant non-muslims, that muslims regard ISLAM's 'peace', as a peace among muslims alone.

And those same devout muslims, do not reveal that all muslims regard themselves as at war, with those same ignorant non-muslims.





When speaking to non-muslims, is there even one devout muslim who does NOT hide, deny, or cover the truth?
.....of what ISLAM is???

And why is this?






abu, you are a kuffar.

You are a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth.

Devout muslims take advantage of, and exploit, other ppl's ignorance.

We're standing our groouind and speaking the truth as we see it.

Don't do that arouind muslims and they will run you over.