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Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:17pm
 
There is also a trial on in Melbourne. Has it finished yet?

Terror trial told of videos and jihad books

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24643808-5006009,00.html

VIDEOS of "infidels" being executed and literature urging Muslims to become suicide bombers in the name of Allah were allegedly found in the homes of five Sydney men accused of plotting to carry out a terrorist attack, a court has heard.

Mohamed Ali Elomar, Khaled and Moustafa Cheikho, Abdul Rakib Hasan and Mohammed Omar Jamal have pleaded not guilty in the Supreme Court to conspiring to do acts in preparation for a terrorist attack.

Crown prosecutor Richard Maidment SC yesterday led the jury through material - allegedly supporting violent jihad, including messages from Osama Bin Laden and articles glorifying suicide bombers - seized by police from the men's homes in November 2005.

Extremist literature recovered from the men's homes in southwest Sydney also named Jews, Americans and any "kufr", or non-believers, as "enemies of Islam."

Iraq war 'inspired local jihad'

Two articles, "Join the caravan" and "The defence of Muslim Lands" by Sheikh Abdullah Azzam - who is credited with reviving the concept of violent jihad in the 20th century - urged Muslims to become martyrs for their religion to enter "paradise".

An audio recording of a lecture in support of the 2004 Al-Qaeda bombing of a Madrid train station which killed 190 people and injured thousands was also allegedly recovered from the homes of the Cheikho brothers and three alleged co-conspirators.

Other material allegedly stated it was permitted for Muslims to kill women and children "if they were in the way" of the pursuit of violent jihad.

Mr Maidment said video showing the gruesome executions of Russian, Hindu and Christian "infidels" was also found on computers and CDs, along with songs and poetry supporting their alleged fundamentalist cause.

While the Crown could not prove that the accused men read, watched or listened to any of the material, Mr Maidment said there was evidence to show it had been shared between them.

"This wasn't a group of people who were just interested in looking at the Islamic religion as a broad concept," Mr Maidment said.

"They selected the items because they intended on pursuing violent jihad themselves . . . and they acquired materials which were likely to de-sensitise them to a point it prepared them as a unit to carry out operations as described."

Justice Anthony Whealy urged the jury not to speculate on the reasons why four other men alleged to be co-conspirators were not being tried alongside the five accused.

"You should not speculate at all as to why the other four men are not appearing as the accused in this trial," Mr Whealy said.

"There may be many reasons for it, and good reasons at that. The fact is that each of the accused is alleged to have conspired with these (four) men and that is all you need to know."

The trial continues.
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Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm
 

these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?
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Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:52pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm:
these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?


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Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:21pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Nov 12th, 2008 at 11:36pm:
Those are reactions of individuals, who are acting on pure emotion, not on Islamic law
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Reply #4 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:27pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm:
these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?

collective punishment, ei? well isn't that what the Bali bombers believed in as well?
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Reply #5 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:30pm
 
Phillip wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:27pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm:
these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?

collective punishment, ei?



No. User pay.

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Reply #6 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:33pm
 
Phillip wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:27pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm:
these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?

collective punishment, ei? well isn't that what the Bali bombers believed in as well?


The criminals believed in murdering innocent people. Is it the same thing according to Koran?


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Reply #7 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:37pm
 

tallow - offing infidels is immaterial.
they made a mistake in offing fellow muslims.

you shoud know that by now ??
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Reply #8 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:42pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:37pm:
tallow - offing infidels is immaterial.
they made a mistake in offing fellow muslims.

you shoud know that by now ??


I disagree. Bali bombers were criminal thugs according any law.
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Reply #9 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:45pm
 

Maybe not abu bakar bashir's law.
Or the taliban.
Or hamas
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Re: Muslim terrorists in Sydney
Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:15am
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:33pm:
Phillip wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:27pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm:
these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?

collective punishment, ei? well isn't that what the Bali bombers believed in as well?


The criminals believed in murdering innocent people. Is it the same thing according to Koran?



since you mentioned the QURAN, here are the relevent verses

"no man bears the burden of another"
"To kill one man unjustly is like to kill all of humanity and to save one is like to save all humankind."
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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:19am
 
Phillip wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:15am:
tallowood wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:33pm:
Phillip wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 11:27pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:42pm:
these trials will take years.

can we charge mosques for the legal fees ?

collective punishment, ei? well isn't that what the Bali bombers believed in as well?


The criminals believed in murdering innocent people. Is it the same thing according to Koran?



since you mentioned the QURAN, here are the relevent verses

"no man bears the burden of another"
"To kill one man unjustly is like to kill all of humanity and to save one is like to save all humankind."


"collective punishment, ei? well isn't that what the Bali bombers believed in as well?"

Looks like Koran answered your questions with resounding
NO


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Re: Muslim terrorists in Sydney
Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:24am
 
Dunno what the Bali bombers believed in, never met them, never going to meet them, in this life anyways. So now about the collective punishment...
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:25am
 

phillip - there are a few strict followers of mohammad who disagree with you.
there are many quotes that they refer to. they DO have religious causes for their actions.

take it up with them.
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:32am
 
Phillip wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 12:24am:
Dunno what the Bali bombers believed in, never met them, never going to meet them, in this life anyways. So now about the collective punishment...


So why did you bring BBs into argument?
As for collective punishment ...... what punishment? If you mean costs then why collectively punish Australian taxpayers?
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