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ISLAM'S DOCTRINES OF DECEPTION
Nov 12th, 2008 at 8:54am
 
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ISLAM's way of 'peace' explained here, according to Osama Bin Laden.
OR,
Advice to real muslims, on how to be 'rightly guided' in your worldly relationships with infidels.



"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word: ‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4]. So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart. And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya]. But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!  Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim. Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader).
.....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."


cited here, from.....

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023454.php



n.b. the words....

".....But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!"

Translation....

If the hatred for non-muslims, at any time extinguishes from the heart of a muslim, "this is great apostasy!"

i.e.
You can only be a REAL muslim, if you have HATRED of non-muslims.

COMMENT....
This sounds very Koran & Hadith based ['legitimate' muslim doctrine] to me!!!


And yet.....
Me wonders.....
Why do certain ppl on forums such as this one [those who claim to be real muslims], claim that such Koran & Hadith based ISLAMIC doctrines are incorrect, and unfounded????

And why is it, that only they [those who claim to be real muslims, visitors to forums such as this one] know what real ISLAMIC doctrine is?

And yet, a person like OBL, who's ISLAMIC doctrine and belief, seem to be in close alignment with ISLAMIC texts, is portrayed as a 'misunderstander' of ISLAM.

It is strange, and unfathomable to me.
/sarc off

hint....
look at the title of this piece.




"....Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.."
OBL


"....And we consider this [...warfare against infidels] a justice and kindness to them...."
OBL

i.e.
"If only the infidel would surrender to us, WE WOULD GIVE THEM 'PEACE'.    Honest!"



Historically, those [non-muslims] who surrender to ISLAMISTS often end up butchered.
.....of course, traditionally the children [of non-muslims] are always spared.
.....especially their wives and daughters.

"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/001.qmt.html#001.001



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The Jewish tribe of Banu Qureza, in a besieged settlement were persuaded to surrender to Muhammad and his cut throats.

After their surrender, Muhammad asked one of his commanders what should be the fate of the captives.

From Hadith.....

"......Sad said, "Kill their (men) warriors and take their offspring as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment,""
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.0...


"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/001.qmt.html#001.001

And as an exercise [lacking] in Allah's mercy, Muhammad and his followers put around 800 men of that community to death.
.....i.e. those persons who had surrendered, to Allah's 'holy' warriors.

All of the men were taken off in small groups, bound, and then beheaded.

Muhammad and his men, then took the wives and daughters [of these dead men] and the other substance of the community, as war booty.


Google,
Banu Qureza
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Banu+Qureza&btnG=Google+Search&meta=





"....we consider this a justice and kindness to them...."
OBL



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: ISLAM'S DOCTRINES OF DECEPTION
Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2008 at 10:28pm
 
you know that Osama Bin Laden actually has no religious qualifications to speak of? Just has a lot of money... and apparently there are a lot of people who find him charismatic or so i hear. But then again the same can be said of Bush...
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